Re: Anthroposophy as Fascio
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:24 pm
Thiis is exactly the approach of both secular and spiritual sciences: they believe that all of the reality is cognizable in principle by using their scientific method (be it secular or spiritual scientific method), it is just that not all of the reality is yet cognized. The boundary between what has been already cognized (inverted) and what is there yet to be cognized is constantly being expanded and anything existing in reality will be cognized at some point in time because it is all in principle cognizable. That is the claim and at the same time the limitation of both secular and spiritual sciences. The issue with such approach is that people who adhere to such views limit their horizon of consciousness only to the realm of phenomena within the applicability of their scientific method and deny the existence of any aspects of reality beyond it: secular scientists deny the existence of any phenomena beyond the natural phenomena of the physical world, and spiritual scientists deny the existence of any reality beyond the forms, structures, laws and curvatures of the spiritual phenomenal world. However, anyone that ever had even a glimpse of mystical experience of the transcendental aspect knows for a fact that such experience is never fully explicable by cognition and it is in principle beyond the applicability of secular or spiritual science. And it is a pity that people who adhere to such limited scientific views close to themselves the doors to the experience of transcendental, and they become the only victims of such self-limiting approach.Cleric K wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:41 pm The problem with this tripartition is that the boundary between the realm of 'immanent spiritual phenomena' and the transcendental aspect, is arbitrarily placed such that certain conscious expressions can be conveniently classified as transcendental and thus deemed unquestionable. This is such a basic thing. It's like learning to jump to a certain height and then saying "That's the boundary, anything more than that belongs to the transcendental and any attempt to jump higher would result in illusions." But how do we know that? How do we know that we haven't simply placed our own ceiling and feel comfortable that there's no point to go further in that direction?
No one here has ever denied that transcendental aspect. In fact, over and over again it is repeated that at any state, no matter how enlightened and divine, half of reality is always transcendental in relation to our perspective. Yet the nature of evolution is such that the transcendental continually turns inside out. What has formerly pulled our string subconsciously from the transcendental depths has to become clear consciousness.For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
The nondual spiritual traditions have been aware of these potential problems and developed practices and approaches to avoid these pitfalls.The problem is that with this philosophy anything can pass for transcendental. The criminal can also say that his acts are the pristine expressions of the One because before incarnation this is what the One wanted to experience. Thus everyone draws the line at their personal point of comfort and rests blissfully that they won't have to consider in depth the 'transcendental' part of their behavior because it is 'irreducible' anyway.
And as I said many times, the all-encompassing approach is to pursue towards both approaches: strive to expand the boundary within the realm of structures/curvatures by using spiritual scientific approach, and at the same time strive to reach to the transcendental by using the mystical approach. They never contradict to each other but go in harmony when used properly.