Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part X)

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Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part X)

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In concluding the last essay, we mentioned that more integrated forms of spiritual activity provide the imaginative state with its meaning, just as the latter provides the conceptual-sensory state with its meaning. Most of the principles we have explored in the essays also apply to these higher forms of activity and, in that sense, the ‘imaginative state’ was also standing in for them. As a practical matter, however, it is important to delaminate these archetypal stages of the retracing process in our thinking. Through the imaginative state, we retrace from the 4th conceptual sphere into the 3rd sphere of soul processes, while the supra-imaginative states retrace into the 2nd sphere of biological processes and the 1st sphere of physical processes. Many spiritual seekers have unfolded the verbal intellect to discern deeper imaginative principles that lawfully structure our experience, but this deeper understanding will become a snare for the spirit if it remains self-satisfied and retraces no further. A common example is those who seek the spiritual with the aid of psychoactive substances and dreamily encounter a flow of profoundly emotional yet mostly inexplicable imagery. The imagery is then only understood within the aliased framework of the sensory intellect - all new experiences are fitted into old conceptual and emotional forms (1) - and the spiritual beings and intents that give it meaning remain opaque.

Tomberg, Meditations on the Tarot (Letter XIII) wrote:The essence of the method of “construction of the tower of Babel” is inverse crystallisation. Normal crystallisation—the “stone”—is the final state of the process of transition from the gaseous to the liquid state and from the liquid to the solid state. Thus vapour becomes water (liquid) and water becomes ice. Ice is crystallised vapour. Similarly, a general but warm intention becomes a current of discursive thought which, in its turn, results in a well-defined formula. Or in still other terms: the spiritual becomes psychic and the psychic becomes corporeal. The process of normal crystallisation is therefore one of concretisation from above below: The process of crystallisation designated as the “construction of the tower of Babel”, takes place, in contrast, from below above: With regard to this latter process, it is a matter of transformation into “body” of the psychic and spiritual.

To guard against ‘inverse crystallization’ we need to get a feel for the supra-imaginative states into which we are retracing. Let’s begin with a broad overview of the cognitive stages of development. We discussed in Part II how the instinctive spirit first develops a meaningful orientation to the lawful flow of experience from the impacts of the sensory spectrum. From many such impacts, it orients to the consonances and dissonances within sensory transformations, i.e. how the meaning of various sensory feedback harmonizes or clashes with its instinctive activity (e.g. the tactile and visual sensations of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole). This sensory orientation acts as a set of training wheels for spiritual activity to probe the ideal topology at a dreamy resolution and begin knowing itself as a distinct agency that contributes to the topology. In other words, the sensory impacts entrain the movement of our instinctive will so we can survive, become more independent, and later reproduce similar movements voluntarily in the act of thinking. Eventually, logical thinking develops as the capacity to voluntarily replicate/remember these instinctive movements when combining conceptual fragments of the meaningful topology, discerning how they harmonize or clash with each other, i.e. “logic”.

It is difficult for us to concretely sense this function of the sensory spectrum since we have already lived through it and outgrown it, distancing ourselves from the sensory flow through cognitive development. That is why we can reflect on the flow and discuss its functions as we are doing now. We could never have this discussion if the instinctive spirit was still immersed in and entrained by the meaningful sensory flow like animals or young children. Due to this cognitive growth apart from the sensory spectrum, our interactions with it have become mostly automated and the spectrum feels like rigidified feedback on our activity, so much so that we often forget that it is even functioning as feedback. That is why all adults in the modern age begin understanding the spectrum as not only perceptual feedback on their spiritual activity but as the cause of that activity. Even if we don’t explicitly philosophize or otherwise state this understanding, that is generally how we treat the spectrum during life experience. It feels like the stable source from which our inner activity lights up, especially since we drop into unconsciousness when we no longer have this sensory feedback during sleep.

Nevertheless, we can try to develop a little sensitivity to how the sensory spectrum essentially conveys meaningful feedback for our spiritual activity with an experiment called, ‘voluntary synesthesia’. We have to set our imaginative activity in motion to heighten sensitivity to what has otherwise become an extremely rigidified and passive relationship. We can first notice how, when we move our head to the right or the left, our visual field changes to encompass different objects. It is the same thing when we walk from one room to another, or from inside to outside. Our audial spectrum will also shift with these movements, although these shifts are even more merged into the background of consciousness. In our house, we may hear the buzzing of a computer in one place, the creaking of the floor or table in another, the air conditioner changing volume, etc. The same goes for odors. Our taste sensations shift mostly in relation to our eating and drinking activity, which is usually very rushed and lacks presence, i.e. we think about a million other things while eating. We are quite insensitive to the feedback from odors and tastes unless they are especially foul or pleasant.

Now, instead of only those normal dim modulations, we can imagine that when we move our head to the right, we also hear a tone that increases in volume, and when we move our head to the left, we hear a tone that decreases in volume. Likewise, when we look up, the tone pitch increases, when we look down, it decreases. As we reach for our computer mouse, this is accompanied by the taste of stale crackers, but if we take hold of our hand and begin gently stretching our fingers, we experience a sweet taste like honey. When we hum the notes of the scale (do-re-mi-etc), or play them on an instrument, these are experienced with corresponding colors from red to violet. The point of this exercise is to regain a bit of sensitivity to the connection between our psycho-physical activity and the sensory feedback, even if only in our imagination. The new sensations won’t be vivid and don’t need to be. By imagining unfamiliar sensory modulations from our activity, the feedback process that is normally merged into the background of consciousness may start to stand out more.

As children, we indeed meet the feedback of sensory impressions with a much greater sense of novelty and much less automatism. Every impression is packed with more fluid and denser meaning, although experienced more dreamily. Through this instinctive development, the meaningful sensory orientation eventually metamorphoses into the forces of logical thinking. The spirit begins to probe the consonances and dissonances of the ideal topology more and more independently of the sensory crutches, at more integrated levels of meaning, such as we find in pure mathematical thinking. The ideal relations of the latter are not drawn from sensory experience but are elaborated entirely inwardly as an independent thought-organism. Because mathematical activity explores the same ideal topology as physical-sensory activity at a more integrated level of meaning, the independently worked out relations can be applied to the sensory flow with great predictive success. Mathematical ideas unite the meaningful ‘frames’ of sensory experience, allowing us to encode many experienced and anticipated sensory states into conceptual symbols.

The philosophical or mathematical thinker becomes inwardly sensitive to the consonances and dissonances within purely ideal relations and that sensitivity is critical for all higher development. In other words, the sense-free thinker learns to attain meaningful orientation within the ideal topology independently of the physical sensory support, i.e. to ditch the training wheels. As long as our spirit is reliant on sensory support in the formation of its thoughts, it is merely associating, not thinking. Already-formed thoughts bubble up from subconscious depths and get coupled with other thoughts with the same necessity as sensory impressions and emotions impinge upon and entrain our attention. The spirit is not present in this chain of necessity, rather it meets the latter as something given, an already past movement, that forces it into certain reactionary paths of experience. This associative ‘thinking’ that is characteristic of normal experience is practically animalistic, i.e. it automatically generates associations between thoughts and spits out ‘speech’ without any real choice in the matter, just as the birds and crickets chirp without any choice. Thinking is only thinking and speech is only speech if there is a choice not to associate thoughts or speak.

The imaginative and higher stages of development we reach through spiritual retracing are a natural continuation of sense-free mathematical thinking. Higher thinking deconditions from mere associating, from reaction to already past movements of activity, and enters the real-time flow of spiritual activity. It is the same principle when a musician learns to not only reproduce a composition from memory alone, without the score, but also improvise new composition styles or measures. The higher thinker, like the musician, no longer reacts to past movements and already formed thoughts, but is actively present and participating in fashioning new thoughts and relationships of thoughts, even ones that have never been conceived before. This sort of skill requires a rigorous and devoted path of inner training that unfolds in stages. Mystics, psychonauts, or anyone else who has not cultivated rigorous logical thinking through the consonances and dissonances of the ideal (supersensible) landscape will be unable to attain focus within the imaginative or higher states. Instead, their consciousness will drop into passive dreamlike and sleep states as the spirit loses its sensory and imaginative feedback.

To briefly approach some experiential aspects of the higher states, we will employ an imaginative metaphor. The following is only the most cursory overview and much more inner exploration is needed to properly orient to the higher states, which are experientially unlike any modes of consciousness familiar from normal life.

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Imagine that, from birth, you had no awareness of your physical form - no visible head, chest, or limbs. All you experienced were dim will impulses and these colored waveform impressions that are mysteriously modulated by your instinctive willing gestures. When you desire X the colors change and shift in one way, when you desire Y they change and shift in another way, and so forth. These colored waveforms are packed with dense meaning that points back at your activity or constraining factors on that activity. You only know of your existence in the reflection of these waveforms that are partially responsive to your activity. Practically, this is analogous to the state we are in when we first begin exploring our imaginative spiritual activity. We instinctively make certain inner thinking-will gestures and the imaginative panorama is modulated in corresponding ways. It is the same principle in normal conceptual-sensory activity, except in the latter case the sensory spectrum is quite rigid, whereas the imaginative panorama is much more fluid and responsive to our activity. Nevertheless, it is still constrained by independent factors, only we no longer confuse these factors for mechanical processes on the ‘other side’ of perceptual experience but understand them as living spiritual activity on the ‘same side’ as our activity, i.e. as more temporally integrated constraints on that activity.

If the colored waveforms were to suddenly disappear, however, we would stop receiving feedback from our imaginative activity and drop into unconsciousness, just like we lose consciousness at night when our conceptual activity stops receiving feedback from the physical senses. The only way we would remain conscious is if we became so intimate with our thinking-will gestures that we could sense their ‘geometry’ from within, analogous to how we can feel our bodily limbs from within as kinesthetic sensations (for example the tingling sensations when our foot ‘goes to sleep’). It is a transition analogous from sensory thinking to mathematical thinking that weaves independently of sensory feedback - we learn to navigate the meaningful topology without the feedback of any mental pictures. Indeed, the spirit must willfully extinguish the mental imagery and become inwardly responsible for the reflective function of that imagery. Imagine you have a pen and paper and need to write something legible without any sensory feedback - not only are your eyes closed, but you can’t feel your hands, the pen, or the paper either. You live entirely in the thinking-will gestures that normally animate your hands and must condense the meaning experienced into legible shapes.

To retrace into the next higher state of spiritual activity, which is the ideal basis of all physical processes, we would need to renounce even our thinking-will gestures and freely make our consciousness the unconditional vessel of a much higher Will. The only experience somewhat comparable within normal life is that of Love and few of us have known this experience first-hand. We have probably known physical and psychic love, which is always tinged with egotism insofar as we derive pleasure, satisfaction, comfort, security, etc. from the relationship. Yet spiritual Love is born from a state of unparalleled inner sacrifice, from the longing to make one’s entire being a faithful instrument of the Spirit without expectation of receiving something in return. The spirit should be willing to empty itself of all that it has so effortfully won as inner content through its previous stages of development, including its own self-willing. This type of surrender is not passive but is only accomplished through enormous inner strength. All that remains is pure cognitive becoming; the continual death of old intuitive forms and resurrection into new intuitive forms by the Grace of All-Being. In this way, we don’t lose the old inner content or our sense of individuality but gain their true meaning.

Another crude metaphor for these higher states is a wall with holes and only blurry extensions sticking through, making certain gestures. In the imaginative state, we know these extensions (the rich imagery) belong to a living being and they are dialoguing with us through meaningful gestures, but we are not sure what kind of living being the extensions belong to or the precise meaning of the gestures (there is still some gap between perception and knowledge). Through the next higher state, the wall becomes transparent and we perceive the whole being clearly; the gestures are immediately united with meaning and understood (perceiving and knowing are One). We now gain a clear sense of how the rhythms of Nature and our own lives are intended through the symphonic activity of more integrated spiritual perspectives. Finally, we sacrificially unite with the being itself and experience the meaningful gestures from its first-person intentional perspective. Now we understand the holistic ‘meaning of existence’ that is synonymous with Love. Through all these higher states outlined above, working in continual coordination with one another, the spirit gradually learns to live in the realm of Intents that shape and steer the World's experiential rhythms across all scales.(4)

When our retracing activity grows in resonance with the more integrated topology of spiritual intents, we begin developing intuitive sensitivity for the lawfulness within arcs of time, as we previously did for spatial lawfulness through our instinctive sensory-conceptual activity. We can start to sense how previous activity has seeded the conditions for our present state of being and how the latter, in turn, seeds the potential for new paths of experience. Imagine you are walking between rooms of your home but with each new room, it is as if you wake up from a dream and the previous room you walked through is but a hazy feeling that something happened. You move from the bedroom to the bathroom but, by the time you get in the shower, you barely remember how or why you are there. Such a dreamy and disoriented experience of spatial-sensory existence is rare, but it is practically the norm when it comes to inner temporal rhythms. We normally have a dim and fragmented memory intuition for how streams of past inner activity are rhythmically feeding back into our current state of being, and anticipation for how present activity feeds forward.

In a previous essay, I attempted to convey a phenomenology of truthfulness in which the “truth” is understood as the harmonious alignment of concentric layers of experience – intents, thoughts, feelings, sensations. When we intentionally misalign our inner layers of thinking, feeling, and memory/sensation, i.e. what we know as “lying”, how does this feedback into the experiential flow of our lives, the lives of others, and, at a larger scale, the historical flow of the World? Where do our lies go, so to speak, and from whence do they return into the experiential landscape? Such questions are hardly even asked in our time due to the aliasing effect. It is considered the height of absurdity to imagine our inner states can be involved in a lawful process that extends beyond the boundaries of our skin and the boundaries of ‘local’ spacetime effects. Nevertheless, that inner lawfulness is revealed through spiritual retracing. Even quantum mechanical science recognizes that all ‘particles’ of reality must already exist in entanglement with each other since they were merged at the initial Big Bang singularity.

As a simple imagistic symbol for this process, let’s consider the water cycle.

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The Sun symbolizes the entirely inner domain of existence from whence the manifest spectrum condenses; the contextually nested spiritual intents mediating the entire cycle through which inner activity gradually objectifies itself into perceptual manifestations, and engagement with these manifestations feeds back to orient the flow of inner activity through the contextual perspectives. These invisible forces precipitate into our inner life and crystallize as sensory impressions, thoughts, feelings, and deeds before percolating in the subconscious as memories. Then we conduct our spiritual activity based on the lawfulness of this subconscious memory intuition and radiate inner impulses back to the Sun sphere, for example when we decide to tell a lie because we have rationally determined it will help us (or even help others) in some way. Yet in this ‘evaporation’ process, the impulses we send back become more and more ‘subtle’ as they ascend into more integrated domains of relative perspectives until we lose sight of them, which is to say our intellectual thinking consciousness can no longer trace their relations. For that reason, we forget to even consider how they are still influencing the Earthly stream of development.

It isn’t only our personal activity at work here but the collective activity of many relative perspectives pursuing intents. Our normal intuition is that we are self-enclosed bubbles of consciousness confronting an ‘external’ world that runs its course mostly independently of our activity. Yet we know that our genetic material is woven from a line of ancestors that becomes increasingly wider in scope, more universal, the further we trace them back. Likewise, the substances that comprise our body are drawn daily from the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms. The air we inhale one moment was outside our skin the moment before and will be outside of it again the next moment. Our psychic life is woven from memories of interactions with the outer world and its beings. On the path of retracing, we find these outer facts are genuine reflections of inner realities. Our inner experiential space is felt to be superimposed with the experiential spaces of many other beings, not bounded by our skin and bones. This doesn’t mean we dissolve into a homogenous soup, because we can still discern what our activity uniquely contributes within this space, except the boundaries are not so neatly and sharply defined as they usually are.

Returning to the metaphor, when the impulses we send to the Sun sphere precipitate back into the Earthly stream of development, we often meet them with various shades of pride, perplexity, fear, and resentment. We are graced with insight, skills, and good fortune, and we often attribute these to our personal efforts. On the flip side, we are struck by accidents, illnesses, traumas, economic disasters, wars, and similar events, and we search for all manner of external parties to blame. The situation is crudely comparable to a woman who goes through the trials of pregnancy without any consciousness that her sufferings were the result of her previous intent to have a child or are in fact leading to the realization of that intent. The whole temporal arc that would connect the beginning with the end, and make sense of the sacrifices involved, is conspicuously missing. That is not to say all suffering is intended, but simply that the inner relations that lead to the suffering and the inner potential that could result from the suffering are generally obscured from view. An untold degree of unnecessary suffering is invited into the experiential stream simply due to this blind spot of consciousness.

An excess of pride, on the one hand, and projective fear, blame, and resentment, on the other, occurs in modern society because our sensory cognition loses sight of the spiritual water cycle and feels forced to locate the reasons for all sensory events within the spatial domain, in which every being appears to be a self-sufficient bubble of inner experience, an island-unto-himself. It is comparable to a person who has a magnetic compass and tries to locate the reasons for the needle’s movement only within the mechanical bounds of the compass, rather than broadening out their search to the whole Earth’s magnetic field, i.e. the invisible influences which primarily make sense of the needle’s movements. Similarly, the movements of individual and collective destinies can only be made sense of when considering the inner Cosmos as a whole and its manifold influences. Most of our passionate intellectual convictions result from a combination of ignorance and a craving to have immediate answers for our experiences. When we mitigate that ignorance by retracing into the temporal arcs, we also find it easier to resist the craving for quick and convenient answers. Instead, we become enthusiastic to continually trace those reasons at an intuitive level.

We can represent these overlapping temporal arcs of activity as follows:

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The smallest arcs represent the temporal rhythms that are most ‘in-phase’ in our normal experience, where intentional activity and the perceptual result of that activity follow in close synchronization. When we intend to think about politics, for example, a stream of inner voice perceptions (thoughts) flows immediately as a testimony of that intention. The meaning of the thoughts will closely reflect our political intuition, and if some thoughts are out of place within that intuitive context, we get immediate feedback that our activity needs some adjustment. Perhaps we notice a glaring gap in the logic of our political thinking and therefore get feedback that we need to do more research on the history of nations. The relationship between spiritual activity and resulting perceptual experience is transparent. These are the temporal arcs that are most intuitively evident to us, so much so that we normally don’t pay any attention to them. We just take it for granted that when we intend to think, a stream of thoughts issues forth in close synchronization.

We can use the following metaphor to orient toward the inner nature of these temporal arcs.

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As we go through life and accumulate experience through our intents, thoughts, speech, and deeds, we implode our spiritual activity into the World state and leave a ‘karmic trail’ that continues to follow us just as the ‘snake’ in the game above. Some of this tail will follow us perceptibly, for example, the thoughts we condense and post on an online forum, but most of it will remain supersensible (aliased) and therefore in the blind spot. This tail grows longer and longer as we externalize our activity into new judgments, speech, physical deeds, relationships, etc. that continue attracting our activity back toward their meaningful qualities. We should try to see through the visual illustration above and sense this process inwardly. The visual symbol should only be an initial anchor for our inner orientation, and eventually, the visual crutches should be released to let the inner meaning shine through. We are speaking here of spiritual activity that continually recedes away from our subjective perspective into the objective World state and then meets us again in metamorphosed forms of experience. Every new state embeds the reverberations of this receded activity as its intuitive context.

Our karmic tail grows longer as more of our intuitive Subjectivity is externalized as mental, emotional, and physical events. The more our karmic tail grows, the more likely it becomes that our present spiritual activity will ‘bump up’ against its past activity as a constraint and iterate over its meaning in a reactionary way. For example, if we externalize our spiritual activity into the shape of a political ideology, our thoughts will continue to attract around its ‘center of gravity’. In a sense, our soul becomes a vehicle for the ideology - we no longer actively think but allow the ideology to think through us.(5) Whenever we are confronted with some event related to political issues, our spirit will be attracted around this psychic mold and its mental and emotional states will continue to iterate over its meaning. Likewise, if we externalize our activity into the shape of a physical habit, like bouncing our legs, our physical states will iterate over its meaning without our conscious participation. We may not even realize we are doing it until someone else gets annoyed and tells us.

Eventually, the tail grows so long that the continual impacts engulf our spirit and the latter can no longer discover fresh pathways of experience; it can no longer extract new intuitive insights from its circular loops of iterated thoughts, emotions, and sensations. It is around this time that it departs the mortal coil of the manifest spectrum, which is what we experience as physical death. However, the karmic tail is still there as the spirit’s overarching context that attracts its stream of becoming, and therefore the spirit will continue tracing similar pathways of experience in the next incarnation, albeit with new impulses and insights. This situation persists until the spirit extracts the inner lessons to be learned from these past manifestations, which generally involve the perfection of cognitive and moral qualities and capacities.(6) In the case of an unhealthy relationship with another soul, for example, the spirit will continue flowing through this karmic mold and will encounter the same soul under different circumstances. It will have the opportunity to compensate for the existing dissonance with the other soul if it becomes conscious of this temporal arc. Then bumping up against its past activity becomes a redemptive rather than reactionary occasion.

Returning to the phases of the temporal arcs, if we have a job interview and tell a lie about our resume, it’s not as transparent how such an intent will feedback on our experience as the intent to issue a stream of thoughts. It may at first give us an advantage for the position we are seeking, and then only months or years later it feeds back on us from an unexpected direction. Perhaps we are led into a path of experience with our boss and colleagues where more and more lies are needed to support the initial lie, and we end up entangled in an unstable web of lies that eventually costs us not only our job, but also our family, friends, and freedom (maybe the job required a high-level security clearance). Such temporal rhythms are somewhat ‘out-of-phase’ and, therefore, are more easily ignored as we conduct our spiritual activity. This domain of the spiritual ‘water cycle’ remains in the blind spot for many people today, hence lying is not seen as a big deal and is even welcomed in some spheres of life like politics, law, marketing, finance, etc., or even interacting with children.

A broader temporal arc is involved when our inner subjectivity is not only impressed into thoughts, like political judgments, or into speech, like when we post on a forum or tell a lie, but into actions, like an enraged blow to another person’s face. The potential significance of that action for future states at the individual and collective scale is not clothed in the sensory element and therefore remains supersensible, aliased from perception. If we think about the deed enough, it becomes evident that punching another person could precipitate soul entanglements that span many years or even generations. Perhaps it will cause the other person physical and psychological trauma that influences their relationships for a long time, or perhaps their family members will also be affected such that hostility arises between that family and ours. We could also imagine this hostile act profoundly influencing a young impressionable child who happened to witness it. These effects could likewise get entangled in an endless subconscious chain of Nth-order effects.

Given the lack of transparency for the intellect within such broad temporal arcs, it is rather ominous to consider what can happen when cultural norms and expectations disincentivizing such impulsive actions are thrown out the window. We have already witnessed what can happen throughout the modern age, especially during the last century. Contrary to popular belief, nothing extraordinary needs to happen for World-scale wars to continue breaking out, rather humanity only needs to remain ignorant of the inner temporal arcs that contextualize its thoughts, speech, and deeds. It is only this inner knowledge that holds Hope for humanity once the instinctive crutches of cultural and natural life fall away. A soul schooled in spiritual retracing will already be accustomed to actively thinking and drawing on moral intuitions independently of all such external crutches, all rigidified past movements of activity, and therefore will not be caught unawares but rather will be able to spiritually improvise under all circumstances. (7)

Through spiritual retracing, our cognition enters into the overlapping temporal arcs of inner relations. We begin from the most in-phase domain – our mental life - and expand from the inside outwards. For example, we can become more intuitively sensitive to a wider aperture of our inner states of being, such that we anticipate what we would be thinking and feeling if we allowed certain impulses to take hold and influence our activity. We begin experiencing the ‘wavefunction’ of thought-potential, which ‘surfs’ through holistic images, before it collapses into a linear sequence of memory pictures, verbal encodings, and corresponding feelings and deeds. Now we have a larger ‘dataset’ for how our inner rhythms are modulated in relation to our activity (or passivity), i.e. we gain more sensitivity for the living IFS structure of our soul life (remember the illustration from Part II). If this inner life was previously a dark room that we were stumbling through, it is now as if certain parts of the room take on an increasingly luminous glow, making them especially noticeable throughout our daily experiences.

At a broader level, we can develop sensitivity for how certain world conceptions were adopted at various phases of life to explore diverse mental states that were necessary for specific individual and cultural tasks, and which develop specific soul forces. We may also become sensitive to how our childhood experiences planted the seeds of certain qualities, capacities, relationships, or opportunities that grew and blossomed in adult life. These isolated experiences in time may seem unrelated to one another from the perspective of outer life, but they find their deeper connecting substructure in the characteristic rhythms of the inner life, like protruding islands united by an underwater archipelago. Now we sense there was a purpose animating these temporal arcs and can freely seek to harmonize our activity with the overarching aims. It is ‘free’ because we are acting only out of deep insight into and unconditional love for the ideal aim rather than any external compulsion of natural drives, cultural authorities, or hypothesized metaphysical entities. It is a spiritual striving born of nothing other than ever-expanding Wisdom and Love.

As we ascend to the broader arcs, we are dealing with increasingly collective forms of activity that contextualize the narrower arcs and feedback on our experience. Our whole life destiny is contextualized by the epoch of civilization in which we were born, for example, and this epoch is associated with its unique tasks for individuals, communities, nations, and civilizations. A core task of our current epoch is precisely what we are working on now - freeing our spiritual activity from its material, emotional, and mental constraints so it can explore intuitive domains of experience that provide holistic orientation within the existential flow. Humanity should learn to start creatively managing the streams of thinking, feeling, and willing that were previously managed for it in the womb of the Spirit. That begins by intimately exploring the supersensible capacity by which we think about the World and our relation to it. Such an exploration cannot be engaged by analyzing our inner life from a safe distance but requires us to dismantle the elemental macros of our Earthly personality and be transfigured in the process.

One of the most encompassing temporal arcs for humanity is that of its Fall and its Redemption. This is the contextual arc that elucidates the very existence of our sequential conceptual-sensory states, together with toil, suffering, and death, and the eventual reintegration of their fruits into the holistic imaginative and higher spaces through the retracing of spiritual activity. The bookends of this encompassing temporal arc are the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life. It is memorialized in countless ancient myths and religious doctrines, but we can also experience it as an intimate rhythm of our daily and yearly experience. The mythic narratives were not the result of theorizing or subjective fantasy but were instinctively drawn from the same intentional perspectives into which we can now retrace in full consciousness and freedom. Through the Tree of Knowledge, the plenitude of spiritual existence was decohered into conceptual-sensory fragments, and through the Tree of Life (retracing the imaginative and higher states), humanity will once again realize its immortality, i.e. complete continuity of consciousness between life and ‘afterlife’. Death will no longer be experienced as an abrupt ending but as a metamorphosis from one mode of conscious being to another.(8)

By intuitively sensitizing to these overlapping temporal arcs, we gradually gain an intimate appreciation of how our Earthly states of being are woven into the whole spiritual Cosmos. Our spiritual activity transitions from egocentricity to Cosmocentricity as our sphere of resonance expands. In normal life, our efforts at attaining deeper knowledge of the experiential flow via philosophy, history, science, etc. are made for intellectual curiosity or narrow personal aims. At best, it becomes a matter of developing material technologies or employing psychological and theological systems that can potentially help others. Through spiritual retracing, however, our efforts toward inner knowledge become united with the Cosmic intents through which experiential reality evolves at all scales, from the states of the most primitive life forms to those of the entire planetary organism. Knowing and Being become united in our ceaseless activity. We become responsible for the sins of the World, which is to say, the content of the whole World, as experienced in living thought, becomes a continual symbol for the intuitive ‘shape’ of our spiritual activity, and therefore lights the path of perfecting that activity for the creation of a ‘new Heaven and new Earth’. (9)

Citations:

(1) Matthew 9:16
“No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.”

(2) Romans 7:18-20
“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.”

(3) John 15:13
“Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”

(4) Valentin Tomberg, ‘Meditations on the Tarot’ (Letter I)
“To perceive and to know, to try and to be able to, are all different things. There are mirages above, as there are mirages below; you only know that which is verified by the agreement of all forms of experience in its totality—experience of the senses, moral experience, psychic experience, the collective experience of other seekers for the truth, and finally the experience of those whose knowing merits the title of wisdom and whose striving has been crowned by the title of saint. Academia and the Church stipulate methodical and moral conditions for one who desires to progress. Carry them out strictly, before and after each flight into the region beyond the domain of work and effort. If you do this, you will be a sage and a mage. If you do not do this — you will be only a charlatan!”

(5) Carl Jung
“People don't have ideas. Ideas have people.”

(6) John 4:12
“No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”

(7) Matthew 24:38-39
“For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

(8) 1 Corinthians 15:55
“O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?”

(9) Revelation 21:1
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;”
"They only can acquire the sacred power of self-intuition, who within themselves can interpret and understand the symbol... those only, who feel in their own spirits the same instinct, which impels the chrysalis of the horned fly to leave room in the involucrum for antennae yet to come."
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Re: Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part X)

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Thank you for this last episode, Ashvin, and the many occasions to tie up any loose ends, and gain a higher viewpoint on evolution, destiny, purpose, and what we are called to do, to understand our place and role in the cosmic flow. There were only few questions coming to mind while reading:


1. I thought that calling intellectual thought mere associating was a bit extreme. Surely there is the instinctive steering in a sea of segmented bits and pieces of meaning. But isn’t that instinctive process of sequenced awakening to thoughts mixed with some level of will, most of the time? That normal thought is mere association seems to suggest a complete lack of intentionality, as in a fully subconscious phenomenon - or say 99% subconscious, with only the mere word-tips emerging above the surface, in conscious space. That’s association. But normal thinking, even when immersed in the world of senses, can be a little more advanced than that. Taking as an example your description of thinking about politics, isn’t it too much to call it a case of mere association?
When we intend to think about politics, for example, a stream of inner voice perceptions (thoughts) flows immediately as a testimony of that intention. The meaning of the thoughts will closely reflect our political intuition, and if some thoughts are out of place within that intuitive context, we get immediate feedback that our activity needs some adjustment. Perhaps we notice a glaring gap in the logic of our political thinking and therefore get feedback that we need to do more research on the history of nations.

2. Then I was not entirely onboard with the example of reproducing musical compositions, versus musical improvisation, as an example of the same relation existing between normal and higher cognition:
It is the same principle when a musician learns to not only reproduce a composition from memory alone, without the score, but also improvise new composition styles or measures.
In comparison to other arts, music has the special feature that it has to be brought to life every time, in order to be outwardly experienced. The performer has to bring it on their side of experience. Therefore I’m not sure that the activity of a musical performer is necessarily lower than the improviser’s. True, when I go to a museum to contemplate the painting of a master, for example, I also have to bring the painting to life in my inner activity, and I may be more or less good at that. But with music it's different. I may go to a concert and, as a listener, I will try to tune into the music. On the other hand, the performer will also tune in, through execution, but clearly on a much more active and integrated level. Perhaps the performer’s activity is comparable to the prayer’s. One can say a prayer automatically, with scarce attention to meaning and feeling (and even then it may turn out valuable, as I remember VT stated somewhere) or one can imbue it with intention. The same can do the performer of a beautiful musical composition. When it’s not done mechanically, but with intention and full alignment of activity, it requires uninterrupted strength and focus. Then it's an exceptional activity. In this sense, composing a new piece of music is not extremely different from only executing one in full immersion. As another analogy, I would compare it to climbing a high mountain peak by opening a new path, and doing it on a path that has already been opened and climbed by someone else. Somewhat different activities, but not worlds apart. Similarly, you don’t have to be the inventor of a theorem to benefit from mathematical thinking. On the other hand, musical improvisation can surely be creative and remarkable, but also mediocre - a distraction, or just a ‘macro’. I don't think it’s a good metaphor for higher activity. I believe it’s almost the other way around: mere improvising can be akin to associating. Musical improvisation is spontaneous execution of variations, decorations, and parallel themes starting from a given input (existing composition or live playing by other musicians). It's similar in improvisational theater: often witty and unexpected, but the ability to write a play like Faust (and maybe even to play it, only) is on another level. In this sense, I wondered why you referred to improvising and not to composing new music. Composing is a much more substantially creative “hard work” than improvising. And maybe not so wildly different from performing it.

3. I have appreciated the presentation of death as the point when the karmic trail is so filled up with ingrained patterns of activity (elemental macros) that we become permanently unable to make any further contribution to the flow of cosmic existence as incarnated beings. That’s insightful, but what about the wise, loving, knowing activities that extend the karmic tail in a positive way? How does the spirit’s incarnation in an Initiate or Saint come to extinguishment? Is it that their Earthly existence is exhausted because they have also come to an extreme of the spectrum, but on the opposite side? They may have fully recovered, or retraced, the entire cycle of their current individual life back to its uninterrupted purpose or meaning within the collective context, so that their individual life has entirely fullfilled its potential.

4. Finally, about the impossible comparison between spiritual Love and psychic love, which you said is inevitably egotistic, since it brings pleasure. It seems to me that, in a strong sense, will is pleasure. If there is a "longing to make one’s entire being a faithful instrument of the Spirit without expectation of receiving something in return", that's what one is pleased with, what one wants, there is a longing. That something moves us, mobilizes our will, means it gives us pleasure. In this sense, I was wondering why you connect egotism to the fact that something pleases us. If someone is inspired by high ideals, one must be pleased with them. As it happens, today's OMA meditation speaks to that:
Spirits of darkness - very wily with their promises
"The spirits of darkness are wily. They do not appear before you with horns, a forked tail, surrounded by all the cauldrons of hell, because they do not wish to frighten you. On the contrary, they come with the promise that all your wishes will be granted, and they persist again and again, until, like an overripe fruit, you fall into their snares. That is how they manage to seduce people: by promising power, pleasure and money.
The spirits of good, on the other hand, say, ‘If you listen to us, you may not gain fame or fortune, because the Prince of this World is the guardian of these things. But we can offer you other things: light, peace, knowledge and above all, abundant life. Would you like to join us?’ If you are enlightened and truly discerning, you will listen to the voices of the heavenly spirits; if you do not, of course, you will fall into the traps laid for you by the spirits of darkness.*"

Light, peace, knowledge, and abundant life also bring pleasure, satisfaction, and comfort, though of course of a different quality compared to psychic love.


PS: How is the book preparation going, have you started writing the Introduction? :D :)
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Federica wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:33 pm Thank you for this last episode, Ashvin, and the many occasions to tie up any loose ends, and gain a higher viewpoint on evolution, destiny, purpose, and what we are called to do, to understand our place and role in the cosmic flow. There were only few questions coming to mind while reading:

Thank you, Federica, for your consistent and thoughtful attention and feedback throughout the process!

1. I thought that calling intellectual thought mere associating was a bit extreme. Surely there is the instinctive steering in a sea of segmented bits and pieces of meaning. But isn’t that instinctive process of sequenced awakening to thoughts mixed with some level of will, most of the time? That normal thought is mere association seems to suggest a complete lack of intentionality, as in a fully subconscious phenomenon - or say 99% subconscious, with only the mere word-tips emerging above the surface, in conscious space. That’s association. But normal thinking, even when immersed in the world of senses, can be a little more advanced than that. Taking as an example your description of thinking about politics, isn’t it too much to call it a case of mere association?
When we intend to think about politics, for example, a stream of inner voice perceptions (thoughts) flows immediately as a testimony of that intention. The meaning of the thoughts will closely reflect our political intuition, and if some thoughts are out of place within that intuitive context, we get immediate feedback that our activity needs some adjustment. Perhaps we notice a glaring gap in the logic of our political thinking and therefore get feedback that we need to do more research on the history of nations.
1. Right, I meant to suggest thinking that flows along with sensory events passively as 'associative', i.e. it is simply a commentary on sensory events and corresponding soul impulses. When we get to active intellectual thinking, for ex. in certain natural sciences, then I think it becomes more of a gray area. I would say the more the scientific inquiry is removed from living experience, where it patiently observes and reasons through phenomenal relations (in the Goethean sense), and instead weaves in abstract concepts about that experience, the more it becomes merely associative. That is because the latter is still beholden to shadowy assumptions, preferences, passions, etc. that are steering the threads of thinking in an automatic way. That thinking is not disciplined by the living phenomenal realities and so it inevitably falls prey to the elemental macros.

Perhaps the more important point here is that the difference between creative thinking and associative thinking is not very transparent to ordinary consciousness. Only when we begin concentrating our attention in meditation, for example, do we start to get an inkling of how associative our thinking is. We try our hardest to concentrate on some spiritual image or verse and, before we know it, our attention has been dragged away to some other thoughts. That dragging of attention through associative chains of thoughts is also happening during our normal study of intellectual topics but we often fail to notice it or even rationalize the associative wandering as something we chose to do, as some strictly logical process of reasoning that helped us reach a sound conclusion. So it's generally safer to assume our thinking in such situations is likely not as much the result of our creative will than we imagine it to be and that more self-knowledge is needed to make the proper assessment.

We should also remember conditions are always evolving and what was once creative thinking can lapse into associative thinking if further efforts are not undertaken. This is generally a problem with many 'vitalist' ways of thinking today (I think Marco Masi could be considered an example here). Even the living Goethean method of phenomenal investigation can become mostly associative in the near future if efforts are not made toward sense-free thinking that liberates from the physical body, since the living Ideas that will make sense of phenomenal realities are retreating further inwards, so to speak. That requires corresponding greater imaginative efforts by humans to incarnate those living Ideas. Without that effort, previously living thinking may once again weave in mere associations of already finished concepts.

Some of these examples from the essay, and which you have mentioned in your response, were inspired by a book that I have been reading by Kuhlewind, so I will also share some of his ideas as clarification.

The significant difference between superconscious abilities and subconscious habits consists in this very “finished” quality: the subconscious effects are always finished and come to light already formed, for example, as associations. The superconscious powers or abilities, on the other hand, because they exist at a more primal level of being are always unfinished essences, through which formed and finished products can come about. What is the difference between a habit and an ability? It would be habit if I could only play one piece on the piano, even if I could play this one piece perfectly. It would be a capacity or ability, on the other hand, if I could learn to play any given piece according to my own technical and musical ability. One can never say that a capacity is finished. There is also a difference here as to how we acquire habits and capacities. Habits are formed by regular, repeated activity or by training as one trains an animal; capacities are formed by instruction. The distinction between these two has nearly disappeared from today's schools.
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Premade forms are useless for the creation of new forms, or for creativity in general: the new can only arise from what is form free. For real speaking—when something new gets said—there must be a wordless capacity to conceive of this newness. Then it is poured into a language made up of words, and it is still fluid, not yet fixed. The already formed does not speak; or it does so only if some understanding, or some understander, lifts the preformed words, a written text for example, back into the fluid phase. Only in this way can it do its “wording” and be understood. We recognized improvisation as the primary creative, innovative gesture. This gesture stands diametrically opposed to subconscious forms, associations, and everything habitual.

Kuhlewind, Georg. From Normal to Healthy (p. 79). Lindisfarne Books. Kindle Edition.
Federica wrote:2. Then I was not entirely onboard with the example of reproducing musical compositions, versus musical improvisation, as an example of the same relation existing between normal and higher cognition:
It is the same principle when a musician learns to not only reproduce a composition from memory alone, without the score, but also improvise new composition styles or measures.
In comparison to other arts, music has the special feature that it has to be brought to life every time, in order to be outwardly experienced. The performer has to bring it on their side of experience. Therefore I’m not sure that the activity of a musical performer is necessarily lower than the improviser’s. True, when I go to a museum to contemplate the painting of a master, for example, I also have to bring the painting to life in my inner activity, and I may be more or less good at that. But with music it's different. I may go to a concert and, as a listener, I will try to tune into the music. On the other hand, the performer will also tune in, through execution, but clearly on a much more active and integrated level. Perhaps the performer’s activity is comparable to the prayer’s. One can say a prayer automatically, with scarce attention to meaning and feeling (and even then it may turn out valuable, as I remember VT stated somewhere) or one can imbue it with intention. The same can do the performer of a beautiful musical composition. When it’s not done mechanically, but with intention and full alignment of activity, it requires uninterrupted strength and focus. Then it's an exceptional activity. In this sense, composing a new piece of music is not extremely different from only executing one in full immersion. As another analogy, I would compare it to climbing a high mountain peak by opening a new path, and doing it on a path that has already been opened and climbed by someone else. Somewhat different activities, but not worlds apart. Similarly, you don’t have to be the inventor of a theorem to benefit from mathematical thinking. On the other hand, musical improvisation can surely be creative and remarkable, but also mediocre - a distraction, or just a ‘macro’. I don't think it’s a good metaphor for higher activity. I believe it’s almost the other way around: mere improvising can be akin to associating. Musical improvisation is spontaneous execution of variations, decorations, and parallel themes starting from a given input (existing composition or live playing by other musicians). It's similar in improvisational theater: often witty and unexpected, but the ability to write a play like Faust (and maybe even to play it, only) is on another level. In this sense, I wondered why you referred to improvising and not to composing new music. Composing is a much more substantially creative “hard work” than improvising. And maybe not so wildly different from performing it.

2. So, in the sense of the above, I would say what you described is music (or text) being brought back into the fluid (living) phase. If a musical performer is reproducing a composition with intention and life, not mechanically, I think that means they necessarily have the capacity to improvise if they so choose. They resonate with the spiritual gestures of the composition at such a deep level that they have discerned its inner musical 'logic' and could expand that logic into new fruitful directions if that was their aim. This doesn't necessarily mean the improvisation will be of good quality. We are simply speaking of the capacity to improvise, not the actual decision to improvise and its results. 

The reality is that, as you say, the capacity to improvise in normal life gets mixed in with all sorts of selfish qualities born of the personal will, and that can sometimes heighten the quality but also diminish the quality as well. This is where we can differentiate normal artistic improvisation from the creative quality we are speaking of with respect to higher cognition. The latter is something fundamentally transpersonal in nature and therefore must be united with high moral impulses. This higher sort of 'improvisational' creativity already begins to resemble the creativity we find not only in human science and arts but in Nature herself. 

We can also have some idea of a quite distinct will, all too clear and distinct, in fact, for our normal consciousness. The “dark” will takes hold of our bodily actions, and it cannot be consciously followed. But when we think very concentratedly, improvisationally, how do we do it? We consciously determine what we will think about, then we let thinking itself take over, while we calm our subjective willfulness as much as possible. There is a particular kind of will hidden within this will that we have allowed to take control. I do not think a particular thing; I don't even know what thought will come up in the next moment. The will in this improvisational thinking is at one with the thinking itself. It is a thought will and is not willed by me. In pure, concentrated thinking, there is always this superconscious will. In this will, in turn, the feeling for what is evident (which propels thinking) also lies hidden. Can I say that this will is my own? Not at all; I merely set it in motion, and I am not even conscious of how I do so.

Kuhlewind, Georg. From Normal to Healthy (pp. 32-33). Lindisfarne Books. Kindle Edition.
Federica wrote:3. I have appreciated the presentation of death as the point when the karmic trail is so filled up with ingrained patterns of activity (elemental macros) that we become permanently unable to make any further contribution to the flow of cosmic existence as incarnated beings. That’s insightful, but what about the wise, loving, knowing activities that extend the karmic tail in a positive way? How does the spirit’s incarnation in an Initiate or Saint come to extinguishment? Is it that their Earthly existence is exhausted because they have also come to an extreme of the spectrum, but on the opposite side? They may have fully recovered, or retraced, the entire cycle of their current individual life back to its uninterrupted purpose or meaning within the collective context, so that their individual life has entirely fullfilled its potential.

3. I should have cautioned that the metaphors shouldn't be extended too far or made into any sort of encompassing rule. It is only an anchor point for some particular aspect of spiritual flow that we are trying to highlight. Here it is only a matter of anchoring the intuition that our experiential rhythms oscillate between drawing on new creative (or 'improvisational') capacities and finished forms of experience that act as support for and constraints on those capacities. At a certain point, the possibilities of Earthly consciousness to use the latter to stimulate the former grow too minimal and therefore the spirit needs to liberate from the Earthly vehicles. Of course, souls can also depart the Earth for many complex karmic reasons not directly related to the above.

Things get pretty complex when it comes to much more advanced individualities. For example, we could say that most of them don't even primarily live on the Earth but in higher spheres of spiritual activity. Their physical bodies are experienced more like we experience our cars - vehicles we get into from time to time so that we can accomplish certain tasks, but we don't live in our cars or spend most of our time in them. In general, though, I think you are correct that their work on Earth is not generating a longer karmic tail but is oriented toward redeeming that tail, making the externalized manifestations a matter of inner creative responsibility again, not only for their personal karma but for the karma of collective groups and even the entire species. A really interesting example is what Steiner speaks about here:

GA 95 (13) wrote:What does breathing signify in occult development? You can find the answer in the injunctions not to kill and not to injure any living creature. The occult teacher says: “By breathing you are slowly, continually, killing your surroundings.” What does this mean? We breathe the air in, use it to furnish our blood with oxygen and then breathe it out again. What does this involve? We inhale the air with its oxygen; we combine the oxygen with carbon and we exhale carbon dioxide, in which no man or animal can live. We breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide, which is a poison; and this means that with every breath we draw we are dealing death to other beings in our environment. Bit by bit we are killing our whole environment: we inhale the breath of life and exhale air which we can make no further use of. The occult teacher is concerned to alter this. If there were only men and animals in the world, all the oxygen would soon be used up and all living creatures would die. It is thanks to the plants that this does not happen, for in plants the breathing process is the reverse of ours. They assimilate carbon dioxide, separate the carbon from the oxygen, and use the carbon to build up their bodies. They liberate oxygen, and men and animals breathe it in again. So do the plants renew the life-giving air; otherwise all life would long ago have been destroyed. We owe our life to the plants, and in this way plants, animals and men are complementary.

But this process will change in the future, and since anyone who is undergoing occult training must begin to do what others will achieve at some time in the future, he must learn not to kill with his breath. That is Pranayama, the science of the breath. Our modern materialistic age places health under the sign of fresh air; but our modern way of achieving health through fresh air is one that terminates in death. A Yogi, on the other hand, will retire into a cave and as far as possible will breathe the air he has himself exhaled—unlike the European, who is always wanting to open windows. A Yogi has learnt the art of contaminating the air as little as possible because he has learnt how to use it up. How does he do it? The secret has always been known to the European occult schools, where it was called the finding of the Stone of the Wise, the Philosopher's Stone.
Federica wrote:4. Finally, about the impossible comparison between spiritual Love and psychic love, which you said is inevitably egotistic, since it brings pleasure. It seems to me that, in a strong sense, will is pleasure. If there is a "longing to make one’s entire being a faithful instrument of the Spirit without expectation of receiving something in return", that's what one is pleased with, what one wants, there is a longing. That something moves us, mobilizes our will, means it gives us pleasure. In this sense, I was wondering why you connect egotism to the fact that something pleases us. If someone is inspired by high ideals, one must be pleased with them. As it happens, today's OMA meditation speaks to that:
Spirits of darkness - very wily with their promises
"The spirits of darkness are wily. They do not appear before you with horns, a forked tail, surrounded by all the cauldrons of hell, because they do not wish to frighten you. On the contrary, they come with the promise that all your wishes will be granted, and they persist again and again, until, like an overripe fruit, you fall into their snares. That is how they manage to seduce people: by promising power, pleasure and money.
The spirits of good, on the other hand, say, ‘If you listen to us, you may not gain fame or fortune, because the Prince of this World is the guardian of these things. But we can offer you other things: light, peace, knowledge and above all, abundant life. Would you like to join us?’ If you are enlightened and truly discerning, you will listen to the voices of the heavenly spirits; if you do not, of course, you will fall into the traps laid for you by the spirits of darkness.*"

Light, peace, knowledge, and abundant life also bring pleasure, satisfaction, and comfort, though of course of a different quality compared to psychic love.
4. Right, I should have specified that I am speaking of sensual or psychic pleasure. In other words, the loving act is at least partially motivated by the desire to indulge in pleasurable sensations and feelings. There is certainly a 'spiritual pleasure' involved in higher development, but I would rather call that joy or ecstasy or something similar. The key is that the highest stages of development cannot be reached if our motivation is to receive spiritual pleasure, or joy and ecstasy. In a certain sense, that would reveal we are still not ready to accept the sacrificial responsibilities that come along with such a lofty stage of creative capacity. The very expectation would be a dissonant quality within the Intuitive landscape. Of course, I am speaking here at a very abstract level because I have not experienced these highest levels in their 'pure' state. It's almost impossible to even think about what it means to surrender one's life to a higher Will without any inkling of pleasure-seeking motivation, sensual or spiritual. Some things simply need to remain mysterious until the corresponding inner experiences are reached.


PS: How is the book preparation going, have you started writing the Introduction? :D :)

Not quite :)

In all seriousness, this can be related to the karmic tail, at least from my current perspective. Even finishing these essays felt like a big relief because the more semi-formal patterns of thought I cast out into the World state, the more my spiritual activity may be attracted around those patterns, possibly to its detriment at this stage of development. That may sound silly but it's a somewhat concrete experience for me. I can't imagine what the effect would be of compiling a book and publishing it, marketing it, potentially giving interviews about it, and so forth. Of course, there is a great redemptive function served by those efforts, but I think the soul needs to be very well-established in wisdom and maturity before it can offset the mental and emotional conditioning factors that come along with it. I don't feel that I am at such a stage yet.
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Re: Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part X)

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Thanks for elaborating!

AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:18 am 1. Right, I meant to suggest thinking that flows along with sensory events passively as 'associative', i.e. it is simply a commentary on sensory events and corresponding soul impulses. When we get to active intellectual thinking, for ex. in certain natural sciences, then I think it becomes more of a gray area. I would say the more the scientific inquiry is removed from living experience, where it patiently observes and reasons through phenomenal relations (in the Goethean sense), and instead weaves in abstract concepts about that experience, the more it becomes merely associative. That is because the latter is still beholden to shadowy assumptions, preferences, passions, etc. that are steering the threads of thinking in an automatic way. That thinking is not disciplined by the living phenomenal realities and so it inevitably falls prey to the elemental macros.

Perhaps the more important point here is that the difference between creative thinking and associative thinking is not very transparent to ordinary consciousness. Only when we begin concentrating our attention in meditation, for example, do we start to get an inkling of how associative our thinking is. We try our hardest to concentrate on some spiritual image or verse and, before we know it, our attention has been dragged away to some other thoughts. That dragging of attention through associative chains of thoughts is also happening during our normal study of intellectual topics but we often fail to notice it or even rationalize the associative wandering as something we chose to do, as some strictly logical process of reasoning that helped us reach a sound conclusion. So it's generally safer to assume our thinking in such situations is likely not as much the result of our creative will than we imagine it to be and that more self-knowledge is needed to make the proper assessment.

We should also remember conditions are always evolving and what was once creative thinking can lapse into associative thinking if further efforts are not undertaken. This is generally a problem with many 'vitalist' ways of thinking today (I think Marco Masi could be considered an example here). Even the living Goethean method of phenomenal investigation can become mostly associative in the near future if efforts are not made toward sense-free thinking that liberates from the physical body, since the living Ideas that will make sense of phenomenal realities are retreating further inwards, so to speak. That requires corresponding greater imaginative efforts by humans to incarnate those living Ideas. Without that effort, previously living thinking may once again weave in mere associations of already finished concepts.

Some of these examples from the essay, and which you have mentioned in your response, were inspired by a book that I have been reading by Kuhlewind, so I will also share some of his ideas as clarification.

The significant difference between superconscious abilities and subconscious habits consists in this very “finished” quality: the subconscious effects are always finished and come to light already formed, for example, as associations. The superconscious powers or abilities, on the other hand, because they exist at a more primal level of being are always unfinished essences, through which formed and finished products can come about. What is the difference between a habit and an ability? It would be habit if I could only play one piece on the piano, even if I could play this one piece perfectly. It would be a capacity or ability, on the other hand, if I could learn to play any given piece according to my own technical and musical ability. One can never say that a capacity is finished. There is also a difference here as to how we acquire habits and capacities. Habits are formed by regular, repeated activity or by training as one trains an animal; capacities are formed by instruction. The distinction between these two has nearly disappeared from today's schools.
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Premade forms are useless for the creation of new forms, or for creativity in general: the new can only arise from what is form free. For real speaking—when something new gets said—there must be a wordless capacity to conceive of this newness. Then it is poured into a language made up of words, and it is still fluid, not yet fixed. The already formed does not speak; or it does so only if some understanding, or some understander, lifts the preformed words, a written text for example, back into the fluid phase. Only in this way can it do its “wording” and be understood. We recognized improvisation as the primary creative, innovative gesture. This gesture stands diametrically opposed to subconscious forms, associations, and everything habitual.

Kuhlewind, Georg. From Normal to Healthy (p. 79). Lindisfarne Books. Kindle Edition.


2. So, in the sense of the above, I would say what you described is music (or text) being brought back into the fluid (living) phase. If a musical performer is reproducing a composition with intention and life, not mechanically, I think that means they necessarily have the capacity to improvise if they so choose. They resonate with the spiritual gestures of the composition at such a deep level that they have discerned its inner musical 'logic' and could expand that logic into new fruitful directions if that was their aim. This doesn't necessarily mean the improvisation will be of good quality. We are simply speaking of the capacity to improvise, not the actual decision to improvise and its results. 

The reality is that, as you say, the capacity to improvise in normal life gets mixed in with all sorts of selfish qualities born of the personal will, and that can sometimes heighten the quality but also diminish the quality as well. This is where we can differentiate normal artistic improvisation from the creative quality we are speaking of with respect to higher cognition. The latter is something fundamentally transpersonal in nature and therefore must be united with high moral impulses. This higher sort of 'improvisational' creativity already begins to resemble the creativity we find not only in human science and arts but in Nature herself. 

We can also have some idea of a quite distinct will, all too clear and distinct, in fact, for our normal consciousness. The “dark” will takes hold of our bodily actions, and it cannot be consciously followed. But when we think very concentratedly, improvisationally, how do we do it? We consciously determine what we will think about, then we let thinking itself take over, while we calm our subjective willfulness as much as possible. There is a particular kind of will hidden within this will that we have allowed to take control. I do not think a particular thing; I don't even know what thought will come up in the next moment. The will in this improvisational thinking is at one with the thinking itself. It is a thought will and is not willed by me. In pure, concentrated thinking, there is always this superconscious will. In this will, in turn, the feeling for what is evident (which propels thinking) also lies hidden. Can I say that this will is my own? Not at all; I merely set it in motion, and I am not even conscious of how I do so.

Kuhlewind, Georg. From Normal to Healthy (pp. 32-33). Lindisfarne Books. Kindle Edition.

I see. Probably, part of what triggered my comments is that you ‘transplanted’ in your writing words and concepts from a different individual sphere (Kuhlewind’s) which you were resonating with, lifting back into fluidity, as he says. But from the reader’s viewpoint, who is familiar with your own way of expressing things, those words and concepts, like “associating”, may feel a bit out of phase, against the background of your typical style. As it appears, the same has happened with “improvising”. Could this be evidence that there are limits to intentionally countering one’s own typical expressive style for the purpose of resisting wave collapse and escaping habit (not saying this was your purpose in adopting Kuhlewind’s wording)? Because, when spiritual development is pursued, habits naturally evolve anyway, from the inside out, as they condense from an evolving ideal level, through the filter of one’s individual (hence, to an extent, inevitably habitual) nature. So for example, in the case of your verbal habits, I believe I notice through time a growing use of intransitive verbs (I can’t be sure, probably some AI could help fact-check this impression :) ). If confirmed, this would be an example of endogenous evolution of the individual (verbal) forms. By contrast, when you seamlessly import in your own conceptual-verbal flow the words “improvising” and “associating”, implicitely clothed in the specific conceptual color they have for Kuhlewind, they make me raise questions. Now the reason why is transparent.

In this connection, the Kuhlewind quote makes me associate some more (acknowledged that a quote is by nature fragmentary and incomplete). What is the difference between habit and ability? I would say that habit is a necessary part of developing an ability. An ability can't be developed without the dedication of intention in the form of practice, through time. Surely, ability is larger than habit, it surrounds habit with meaningful intention, preventing it from sinking in the subconscious, through mindless impression in the sensory layer. Interestingly, sense-free activities also can (and should) become habitual - like regular concentration practice - though they simply can’t be mindlessly impressed in sensations, as, say, a physical pattern can - bouncing one’s leg. Still, Cleric just referred to his ability to meditate as almost a macro. Is this bad? Of course not. This is to say that habit in itself is not negative, not opposed to ability. It’s more like one of its components, a necessary step toward the development of a skill, or ability. And, as such, it is characterized by both the “animalistic” impression in the body-soul complex, and by the seal of individuality. Why is a certain composer distinguishable from another one from the same epoch and cultural context, on the only basis of the typical, habitual, traits in their music? In this sense, I don’t see that habit and ability stand in mutually exclusive relation as it seems to be suggested in the quote.

Regarding the uselessness of forms for creativity described in the same quote, I would interpret it similarly. Not that forms are useless or an obstacle. Rather, they are only a first step. I may read a text, contemplate the Mona Lisa, listen to a famous concert - I will always have to detect the living idea within the form. But the form is necessary. It only remains subconscious to the extent that I am hit by it, without inter-acting with it in any conscious way. Acknowledged that normal conceptual thinking is a rather unconscious way of interacting with form, I tend to disagree with the statement that “premade forms are useless for the creation of new forms”. I find more resonance in what you have recently shared in the video feedback thread, from Miller and Spencer-Brown, on the Laws of Form: “The reason why things change from being senseless to sense-full has to do not with the change at the level of the content, but a change at the level of form. THIS is the key that is the treasure.” I see forms, rather than as crystallized past that inhibits creativity, more like the necessary, useful steps on which one can lean, in order to level up, to operate a change of dimension, the integration of meaning at a larger level. The nested nature of the experiential flow couldn't be grasped without form.

3. I should have cautioned that the metaphors shouldn't be extended too far or made into any sort of encompassing rule. It is only an anchor point for some particular aspect of spiritual flow that we are trying to highlight. Here it is only a matter of anchoring the intuition that our experiential rhythms oscillate between drawing on new creative (or 'improvisational') capacities and finished forms of experience that act as support for and constraints on those capacities. At a certain point, the possibilities of Earthly consciousness to use the latter to stimulate the former grow too minimal and therefore the spirit needs to liberate from the Earthly vehicles. Of course, souls can also depart the Earth for many complex karmic reasons not directly related to the above.

Things get pretty complex when it comes to much more advanced individualities. For example, we could say that most of them don't even primarily live on the Earth but in higher spheres of spiritual activity. Their physical bodies are experienced more like we experience our cars - vehicles we get into from time to time so that we can accomplish certain tasks, but we don't live in our cars or spend most of our time in them. In general, though, I think you are correct that their work on Earth is not generating a longer karmic tail but is oriented toward redeeming that tail, making the externalized manifestations a matter of inner creative responsibility again, not only for their personal karma but for the karma of collective groups and even the entire species. A really interesting example is what Steiner speaks about here:

GA 95 (13) wrote:What does breathing signify in occult development? You can find the answer in the injunctions not to kill and not to injure any living creature. The occult teacher says: “By breathing you are slowly, continually, killing your surroundings.” What does this mean? We breathe the air in, use it to furnish our blood with oxygen and then breathe it out again. What does this involve? We inhale the air with its oxygen; we combine the oxygen with carbon and we exhale carbon dioxide, in which no man or animal can live. We breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide, which is a poison; and this means that with every breath we draw we are dealing death to other beings in our environment. Bit by bit we are killing our whole environment: we inhale the breath of life and exhale air which we can make no further use of. The occult teacher is concerned to alter this. If there were only men and animals in the world, all the oxygen would soon be used up and all living creatures would die. It is thanks to the plants that this does not happen, for in plants the breathing process is the reverse of ours. They assimilate carbon dioxide, separate the carbon from the oxygen, and use the carbon to build up their bodies. They liberate oxygen, and men and animals breathe it in again. So do the plants renew the life-giving air; otherwise all life would long ago have been destroyed. We owe our life to the plants, and in this way plants, animals and men are complementary.

But this process will change in the future, and since anyone who is undergoing occult training must begin to do what others will achieve at some time in the future, he must learn not to kill with his breath. That is Pranayama, the science of the breath. Our modern materialistic age places health under the sign of fresh air; but our modern way of achieving health through fresh air is one that terminates in death. A Yogi, on the other hand, will retire into a cave and as far as possible will breathe the air he has himself exhaled—unlike the European, who is always wanting to open windows. A Yogi has learnt the art of contaminating the air as little as possible because he has learnt how to use it up. How does he do it? The secret has always been known to the European occult schools, where it was called the finding of the Stone of the Wise, the Philosopher's Stone.

Thanks, I'll have to think about the example of breathing.

4. Right, I should have specified that I am speaking of sensual or psychic pleasure. In other words, the loving act is at least partially motivated by the desire to indulge in pleasurable sensations and feelings. There is certainly a 'spiritual pleasure' involved in higher development, but I would rather call that joy or ecstasy or something similar. The key is that the highest stages of development cannot be reached if our motivation is to receive spiritual pleasure, or joy and ecstasy. In a certain sense, that would reveal we are still not ready to accept the sacrificial responsibilities that come along with such a lofty stage of creative capacity. The very expectation would be a dissonant quality within the Intuitive landscape. Of course, I am speaking here at a very abstract level because I have not experienced these highest levels in their 'pure' state. It's almost impossible to even think about what it means to surrender one's life to a higher Will without any inkling of pleasure-seeking motivation, sensual or spiritual. Some things simply need to remain mysterious until the corresponding inner experiences are reached.

I didn’t mean those kinds of exalted states, raptured, ecstatic, blissfully joyful, that I am not familiar with. I simply meant the fact that the will is catalyzed towards something that is understood, felt and sensed as attractive of our flow of becoming, not even as an expected reward, but as an integral part of the journey itself, no matter how advanced it is. If one follows a path of spiritual development, starting from normal consciousness, it’s that the path has attracted activity, so that one experiences alignment, direction, and attraction along that vector - in other words, pleasure. The path includes responsibilities and hurdles but that doesn’t change that one is pleased with that flow. How else can pleasure be defined, in the most encompassing, holistic way? Pleasure has to be the experience of attraction exerted by an ideal. This also works for the more limited spheres of experience, psychic and physical.
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AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:18 am
PS: How is the book preparation going, have you started writing the Introduction? :D :)

Not quite :)

In all seriousness, this can be related to the karmic tail, at least from my current perspective. Even finishing these essays felt like a big relief because the more semi-formal patterns of thought I cast out into the World state, the more my spiritual activity may be attracted around those patterns, possibly to its detriment at this stage of development. That may sound silly but it's a somewhat concrete experience for me. I can't imagine what the effect would be of compiling a book and publishing it, marketing it, potentially giving interviews about it, and so forth. Of course, there is a great redemptive function served by those efforts, but I think the soul needs to be very well-established in wisdom and maturity before it can offset the mental and emotional conditioning factors that come along with it. I don't feel that I am at such a stage yet.

This comment is not referred specifically to what you are saying here with regards to impressing activity in writing (your reservations about the effects of writing a book are very understandable). It's a more general impression that, from an external perspective, it seems like you are trying to solve an impossible conundrum, fighting potential patterns and counter-patterns of attraction by dissolving the individual viewpoint? How to face indeterminacy then? Because incarnated existence does not allow for the potential to conserve its potentiality, otherwise it wouldn't be incarnated. As I recently said, all this may come across as arbitrariness. The question seems to be present throughout this thread and also in your recent comments on psychoactives and ascetic practices.
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Federica wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:11 pm I see. Probably, part of what triggered my comments is that you ‘transplanted’ in your writing words and concepts from a different individual sphere (Kuhlewind’s) which you were resonating with, lifting back into fluidity, as he says. But from the reader’s viewpoint, who is familiar with your own way of expressing things, those words and concepts, like “associating”, may feel a bit out of phase, against the background of your typical style. As it appears, the same has happened with “improvising”. Could this be evidence that there are limits to intentionally countering one’s own typical expressive style for the purpose of resisting wave collapse and escaping habit (not saying this was your purpose in adopting Kuhlewind’s wording)? Because, when spiritual development is pursued, habits naturally evolve anyway, from the inside out, as they condense from an evolving ideal level, through the filter of one’s individual (hence, to an extent, inevitably habitual) nature. So for example, in the case of your verbal habits, I believe I notice through time a growing use of intransitive verbs (I can’t be sure, probably some AI could help fact-check this impression :) ). If confirmed, this would be an example of endogenous evolution of the individual (verbal) forms. By contrast, when you seamlessly import in your own conceptual-verbal flow the words “improvising” and “associating”, implicitely clothed in the specific conceptual color they have for Kuhlewind, they make me raise questions. Now the reason why is transparent.

Throughout the essays, I have been purposefully revisiting the same intuitions of spiritual activity and its various modes of expression with different words, terminology, metaphors, etc. This approach may be asking too much of most readers, to begin with. Another approach is to stick to a few core metaphors and terminology drawn from them and consistently use that throughout (such as Cleric's phonograph metaphor). Probably that would be the most accessible gradient. In fact, I don't think my essays will be of much use to anyone who isn't already well-versed in thinking through PoF-style phenomenology and also the core research of spiritual science. It may simply help them approach it from a variety of different concrete angles and solidify intuitive orientation while exercising their imaginative activity.

For that to work, it is also up to the reader not to get too focused on the particular words used and the various connotations that these invoke for them, but try to follow the reasoning and the underlying principle that is being approached, independently of the connotations. I think it probably requires a good amount of 'heavy lifting' in that sense, more so than the typical phenomenological exploration. Fundamentally, Kuhlewind is speaking of the very same differentiations of spiritual activity that Steiner makes in his epistemological works and we have made on this forum using different terms of expression. Through imaginative development, we should find it easier and easier to move between these different verbal styles and expressions, transitive and intransitive verbs, and whatnot, mining the core intuitive essence of inner experience that they are triangulating. (I would also be interested in seeing the AI evaluation of my intransitive verb usage :) )

In this connection, the Kuhlewind quote makes me associate some more (acknowledged that a quote is by nature fragmentary and incomplete). What is the difference between habit and ability? I would say that habit is a necessary part of developing an ability. An ability can't be developed without the dedication of intention in the form of practice, through time. Surely, ability is larger than habit, it surrounds habit with meaningful intention, preventing it from sinking in the subconscious, through mindless impression in the sensory layer. Interestingly, sense-free activities also can (and should) become habitual - like regular concentration practice - though they simply can’t be mindlessly impressed in sensations, as, say, a physical pattern can - bouncing one’s leg. Still, Cleric just referred to his ability to meditate as almost a macro. Is this bad? Of course not. This is to say that habit in itself is not negative, not opposed to ability. It’s more like one of its components, a necessary step toward the development of a skill, or ability. And, as such, it is characterized by both the “animalistic” impression in the body-soul complex, and by the seal of individuality. Why is a certain composer distinguishable from another one from the same epoch and cultural context, on the only basis of the typical, habitual, traits in their music? In this sense, I don’t see that habit and ability stand in mutually exclusive relation as it seems to be suggested in the quote.

Regarding the uselessness of forms for creativity described in the same quote, I would interpret it similarly. Not that forms are useless or an obstacle. Rather, they are only a first step. I may read a text, contemplate the Mona Lisa, listen to a famous concert - I will always have to detect the living idea within the form. But the form is necessary. It only remains subconscious to the extent that I am hit by it, without inter-acting with it in any conscious way. Acknowledged that normal conceptual thinking is a rather unconscious way of interacting with form, I tend to disagree with the statement that “premade forms are useless for the creation of new forms”. I find more resonance in what you have recently shared in the video feedback thread, from Miller and Spencer-Brown, on the Laws of Form: “The reason why things change from being senseless to sense-full has to do not with the change at the level of the content, but a change at the level of form. THIS is the key that is the treasure.” I see forms, rather than as crystallized past that inhibits creativity, more like the necessary, useful steps on which one can lean, in order to level up, to operate a change of dimension, the integration of meaning at a larger level. The nested nature of the experiential flow couldn't be grasped without form.

The subconscious and the superconscious are certainly not mutually exclusive, but as always, we are dealing with a polarity. In that sense, you are correct that the subconscious habits (finished forms of experience) are always acting as supportive constraints to kindle and orient our superconscious capacities, just as the text we read orients us toward meaningful domains of intuition and constrains our spiritual activity from exploring altogether unhelpful domains of meaning. For ex., this text should constrain our spiritual activity from wandering off into thoughts about who will win an upcoming political election (if we aren't interacting with it associatively :) ). I agree the term 'useless' can be misleading for that reason - clearly, there is an indispensable use or function for the finished forms of experience in the spiritual evolutionary process.

I believe Kuhlewind is highlighting that the premade forms should not be mistaken for the cause of new ideal, psychic, or material forms, which is the standard habit of thinking. The default intuition is that the meaning of a text arises through a bottom-up combination of letters and words, for example, whereas the reality is that meaning always arrives from the 'other direction' of the perceptual aspects, from within our form-free spiritual activity. So the forms are 'useless' for generating new meanings of their own accord. I also believe Miller (and perhaps GSB) are speaking of "form" as the mode of spiritual activity, which can be confusing (for them, "content" is what we are referring to as "form" here). The more we refine our form-free capacities, the more meaning we can incarnate within the finished forms.

In this way, our habits can be gradually spiritualized and transmuted, becoming more flexible and adaptable to new evolving circumstances. As we know, spiritual skills like concentration can become habitual and automatic, but that is something to avoid. We should always attain full presence of mind in such practices, kindling the inner forces anew each time (as Cleric discussed with the Formula One driver metaphor). From the outside, this may look like an instinct or habit, just like the habit of eating dinner every day at a certain time, but the inner experience is quite different (that is, until we spiritualize our physical habits as well and attain full presence of mind in the act of eating). I take Cleric's statement about his concentration as 'macro' not to mean he engages it instinctively, but he wasn't entirely conscious of how the fully conscious capacity came about. Once it comes about, however, it can be differentiated from habitual activities that can run on autopilot. Our spiritual activity simply cannot retrace into the more integrated domains of potential unless it remains much more fluid and form-free than anything we normally refer to as 'habits'.

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4. Right, I should have specified that I am speaking of sensual or psychic pleasure. In other words, the loving act is at least partially motivated by the desire to indulge in pleasurable sensations and feelings. There is certainly a 'spiritual pleasure' involved in higher development, but I would rather call that joy or ecstasy or something similar. The key is that the highest stages of development cannot be reached if our motivation is to receive spiritual pleasure, or joy and ecstasy. In a certain sense, that would reveal we are still not ready to accept the sacrificial responsibilities that come along with such a lofty stage of creative capacity. The very expectation would be a dissonant quality within the Intuitive landscape. Of course, I am speaking here at a very abstract level because I have not experienced these highest levels in their 'pure' state. It's almost impossible to even think about what it means to surrender one's life to a higher Will without any inkling of pleasure-seeking motivation, sensual or spiritual. Some things simply need to remain mysterious until the corresponding inner experiences are reached.

I didn’t mean those kinds of exalted states, raptured, ecstatic, blissfully joyful, that I am not familiar with. I simply meant the fact that the will is catalyzed towards something that is understood, felt and sensed as attractive of our flow of becoming, not even as an expected reward, but as an integral part of the journey itself, no matter how advanced it is. If one follows a path of spiritual development, starting from normal consciousness, it’s that the path has attracted activity, so that one experiences alignment, direction, and attraction along that vector - in other words, pleasure. The path includes responsibilities and hurdles but that doesn’t change that one is pleased with that flow. How else can pleasure be defined, in the most encompassing, holistic way? Pleasure has to be the experience of attraction exerted by an ideal. This also works for the more limited spheres of experience, psychic and physical.

Ok, if we are defining "pleasure" to be the very fact of agentic existence :) , then I would omit that word. I hope that it's still clear the sort of distinction that is being made. The main point is to differentiate what is needed for the highest spiritual stages from anything we are familiar with in our normal experience of pursuing knowledge and ideals. We should be careful not to let ourselves off the hook, so to speak, by considering "pleasure" (or satisfaction, etc.) an intrinsic part of spiritual development, to the extent that it becomes completely entangled with our efforts, a primary motivator, and we feel that is OK. We simply can't reach the higher stages that way. The further we retrace, the more crystal clear we need to become on our underlying motivations. The fundamental inversion is that from selfishness to selflessness. 

It may be useful to vividly imagine that we suddenly become materialists or no-self mystics at the threshold of Intuitive cognition, in the sense that we cannot be sure whether our individual existence will even continue when we entrust our intuitive being to the Divine. We can't be sure we won't be fully merged back into the Absolute and lose the very sense of being attracted along a definite path of development, but nevertheless, we absolutely trust that this self-surrender is for the Good of the Cosmic Whole. I am not saying this is necessarily how it is experienced, but it may be a useful way to approximate the 'fear and dread of the infinite yawning abyss' that Steiner discusses below.

GA=132 (2) wrote:This means that a man who wishes to learn to know the ego in its own world must represent to himself a world such as ancient Saturn. This world is hidden; to man it is a super-sensible world. At the present stage of his evolution man could not possibly bear the perception of it. It is veiled by the Guardian of the Threshold Who conceals it from him. And it requires a certain grade of spiritual development to support such a vision. It is indeed a vision to which we have to become accustomed. — And above all you must form a conception of what is necessary, to be able to feel such a cosmic tableau as reality. You must think away everything that can be perceived by the senses, you must even think away your own inner world, in so far as this consists of the wonted working of the mind. Further, you must think away everything that is in the world; all the concepts you have within you. Thus you must remove from the external world all that the senses can perceive, and from the inner world all the workings of the mind, all conceptions. And now, if you wish to form an idea of that soul-disposition which a man must have if he really holds the thought that everything is taken away and man alone remains, we cannot say otherwise than that he must learn to feel dread and fear of the infinite emptiness yawning around him. He must be able to feel, as it were, his environment tinged and saturated with that which inspires dread and fear wherever he turns, and at the same time he must be able to overcome this fear by inner firmness and certainty.

...In order to understand what underlies the world it does not suffice to speak of it in concepts, or to form concepts and ideas on it; it is far more necessary to call up an impression of the feeling aroused by the infinite emptiness of the ancient Saturn existence. A feeling of horror accompanies the mere hint of it. If we wish to ascend clairvoyantly to the state of Saturn, we must prepare ourselves by-acquiring a feeling that may be compared to the giddiness experienced on a mountain, when a man stands at the edge of an abyss and feels that he has no sure footing under him, that he cannot retain it in any place and wants to give way to forces over which he has no longer any control. But that is only the most elementary of these apprehensive feelings. Next he loses not only the ground beneath him, but also what eyes can see, ears hear and hands grasp; in fact all spatial environment. And he can do no other than lose every thought that may come to him, in a sort of condition of dimness or sleep; and then he can arrive at having no perception at all. He may be so deeply absorbed in this impression that he can do no other than come to the condition of dread, which often is like a giddiness not to be overcome.

Man of to-day has two possibilities. The first is that he may have understood the Gospels, or the Mystery of Golgotha. Anyone who has really understood these in their full depths — naturally not as modern theologians speak of them, but in such a way that he has drawn from them the deepest that can be expressed in them — will take something with him into that emptiness, which seems to expand from a given point and fills emptiness with something similar to courage. It is a feeling of courage, of protection through being united with that Being Who accomplished the sacrifice on Golgotha. The other way is to penetrate into the spiritual worlds without the Gospels through a real true Theosophy. This is also possible. (You know that we emphasise the fact that we do not start from the Gospels when we consider the Mystery of Golgotha, but that we should arrive at it even if there were no Gospel at all).

And another quote just to approach it from different angles:

The further stage in cognition is attained by making the power of love a cognitive force. Only, it must not be the shallow love of which alone, as a rule, our materialistic age speaks. It must he the love by which you can identify yourself with another being—a being with whom, in the physical world, you are not identical. You must really be able to feel what is passing in the other being just as you feel what is passing in yourself; you must be able to go out of yourself and live again in another. In ordinary human life such love does not attain the intensity necessary to make it a cognitive force. One must first have attained ‘empty consciousness’, and have had some experience with it. And then we undergo what many who are striving for higher knowledge do not seek: we suffer what may be called the pain of knowledge.

If you have a wound somewhere, it hurts you. Why? Because, owing to the wound, your spiritual being cannot permeate your physical body properly at the place concerned. All pain comes from not being able, from one cause or another, to permeate the physical body. And when something external hurts you, this is also because you are unable to ‘unite’ yourself with it—to accept it. Now, when one has attained the empty consciousness into which there flows an altogether different world from that to which one is accustomed, then, for such moments of inspired cognition, one is without one's whole physical man; this is then one large wound and hurts all over. One must first undergo this experience; one must endure the leaving of the physical body as actual pain and suffering in order to attain inspired knowledge. Of course, an understanding of such knowledge can be acquired without pain, and people should acquire this understanding apart from suffering the pain of initiation. But to acquire an immediate, spiritual perception—not a mere understanding—of what works into man from his life before birth, that is, of what he leaves behind in the spiritual world, one must cross the abyss of universal suffering and pain.

We can then experience the above identification with, and coming to life in, another being. Only then do we learn the highest degree of love which consists not in ‘forgetting oneself’ in a theoretical sense, but in being able to ignore oneself completely and enter into what is not oneself. And only when this love goes hand in hand with that higher—inspired—cognition are we really able to enter the spiritual with all the warmth of our nature, with all our inwardness of heart and mind; that is, with our soul forces. We must do this if we are to progress in knowledge. Love must become a cognitive force in this sense. When such love has attained a certain height and intensity, you pass through your pre-earthly life to your last life on earth; you slip over, through all you have undergone between your last death and your present life, into your former life on earth—into what we call previous incarnations.
Federica wrote:This comment is not referred specifically to what you are saying here with regards to impressing activity in writing (your reservations about the effects of writing a book are very understandable). It's a more general impression that, from an external perspective, it seems like you are trying to solve an impossible conundrum, fighting potential patterns and counter-patterns of attraction by dissolving the individual viewpoint? How to face indeterminacy then? Because incarnated existence does not allow for the potential to conserve its potentiality, otherwise it wouldn't be incarnated. As I recently said, all this may come across as arbitrariness. The question seems to be present throughout this thread and also in your recent comments on psychoactives and ascetic practices.

I can't quite hone in on the intuition you are expressing here, although I am sure it is a reasonable one and useful to explore further. Can you elaborate on it a bit more?
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AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm Through imaginative development, we should find it easier and easier to move between these different verbal styles and expressions, transitive and intransitive verbs, and whatnot, mining the core intuitive essence of inner experience that they are triangulating. (I would also be interested in seeing the AI evaluation of my intransitive verb usage :) )
Ok, I've done a brief verb check. I will later come to the rest of your post. I have picked only 2 samples and compared them in Chat GPT, so completely insufficient, but it gives a hint. :)

From your oldest essay in this forum, I have picked the first long enough chunk of uninterrupted text, that is not interspersed with quotes. You were quoting much more extensively then.
How is Being constantly withdrawing away from us? Perhaps a brief example will aid us here - imagine you are sitting in your car at a red stoplight. You are still looking out at the cars, roads, people, lights and signs who cross your field of vision, but your mind then starts to 'fade out' from the particulars and apprehend a sense of wholeness, where the meaning of each sight appearing before you is related to the meaning of all others appearing before you. Then the light changes to green and you snap back into a mode being-in-the-world which is necessary for you to step off the brake, push the gas pedal and continue driving. That is the essence of the Being which withdraws from us and also draws us toward.


A quick detour into neuroscience should also be helpful here - due to extensive research in this area, we know that the right hemisphere and the left hemisphere of the 'brain' have two opposed modes of attending to the world. The former attends to the world in terms of living relations and interconnectedness, while the latter attends to it as a multitude of lifeless and disconnected 'things' which can be examined best in isolation. Without sidetracking too much here, we can simply observe how the 'right brain' is aligned with imaginative Thinking and the 'left brain' is aligned with Will in the grips of mere intellect.


Thinking seeks integration of all relations, while Willing parcels up the world and seeks to complete specific tasks at hand. It is only through Thinking that percepts and concepts can be strung together to form a living constellation of wholeness. Without that weaving together, we confront a mere multitude of 'things' which appear to have only superficial significance to each other. Then one man's perceptions and will are unique to him and another man's to his. To avoid that isolation, the 'right brain' should remain in the role of the "Master" and the 'left brain' in the role of its "emissary" who carries out tasks in accordance with the Master's guidance (see The Master and his Emissary by Dr. Iain McGilchrist).


In the modern era, however, the emissary has appropriated the role of the Master for himself and the world has become a cemetery. As Jean Piaget observed, "what we see changes what we know; what we know changes what we see". This simple fact is at the heart of Heidegger's lectures on Thinking and the phenomenology of Mind in general. Willing has appropriated the role of Thinking rather than submitting to the wisdom of its guidance. Now we must reverse that relationship if we are to avoid rushing headlong into catastrophe. Owen Barfield perceived and pointed out that, “when the velocity of progress increases beyond a certain point, it becomes indistinguishable from crisis.”


A life of mere intellect in service of Will feels perpetually oppressed by the past; oppressed by the Memory (Mnemosyne) in which Thinking resides. It then desires to discard the past and push ahead by any means necessary. Towards what does this Will push? Such a question is not meaningful for it, only burdensome. Originally, Heidegger tells us, "'memory' means as much as devotion: a constant concentrated abiding with something - not just with something that has passed, but in the same way with what is present and with what may come". Without this Memory, what remains is only a resentful desire for revenge.


Man forgets himself and the need for any deep continuity of knowledge within the younger generations. They forget Steiner's pedagogical approach which stressed that the younger generations must be "able to impart purpose and direction to their lives"; that they need "imagination, a sense of truth, and a feeling of responsibility"; three forces which are "the very nerve of education." They forget the wonder and mystery of the riddles which have beset man from time immemorial and substitute those mysteries for abstract propositional questions which demand abstract answers in return.

And I've done the same with your latest, Retracing Part X, from this thread:

To guard against ‘inverse crystallization’ we need to get a feel for the supra-imaginative states into which we are retracing. Let’s begin with a broad overview of the cognitive stages of development. We discussed in Part II how the instinctive spirit first develops a meaningful orientation to the lawful flow of experience from the impacts of the sensory spectrum. From many such impacts, it orients to the consonances and dissonances within sensory transformations, i.e. how the meaning of various sensory feedback harmonizes or clashes with its instinctive activity (e.g. the tactile and visual sensations of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole). This sensory orientation acts as a set of training wheels for spiritual activity to probe the ideal topology at a dreamy resolution and begin knowing itself as a distinct agency that contributes to the topology. In other words, the sensory impacts entrain the movement of our instinctive will so we can survive, become more independent, and later reproduce similar movements voluntarily in the act of thinking. Eventually, logical thinking develops as the capacity to voluntarily replicate/remember these instinctive movements when combining conceptual fragments of the meaningful topology, discerning how they harmonize or clash with each other, i.e. “logic”.


It is difficult for us to concretely sense this function of the sensory spectrum since we have already lived through it and outgrown it, distancing ourselves from the sensory flow through cognitive development. That is why we can reflect on the flow and discuss its functions as we are doing now. We could never have this discussion if the instinctive spirit was still immersed in and entrained by the meaningful sensory flow like animals or young children. Due to this cognitive growth apart from the sensory spectrum, our interactions with it have become mostly automated and the spectrum feels like rigidified feedback on our activity, so much so that we often forget that it is even functioning as feedback. That is why all adults in the modern age begin understanding the spectrum as not only perceptual feedback on their spiritual activity but as the cause of that activity. Even if we don’t explicitly philosophize or otherwise state this understanding, that is generally how we treat the spectrum during life experience. It feels like the stable source from which our inner activity lights up, especially since we drop into unconsciousness when we no longer have this sensory feedback during sleep.


Nevertheless, we can try to develop a little sensitivity to how the sensory spectrum essentially conveys meaningful feedback for our spiritual activity with an experiment called, ‘voluntary synesthesia’. We have to set our imaginative activity in motion to heighten sensitivity to what has otherwise become an extremely rigidified and passive relationship. We can first notice how, when we move our head to the right or the left, our visual field changes to encompass different objects. It is the same thing when we walk from one room to another, or from inside to outside. Our audial spectrum will also shift with these movements, although these shifts are even more merged into the background of consciousness. In our house, we may hear the buzzing of a computer in one place, the creaking of the floor or table in another, the air conditioner changing volume, etc. The same goes for odors. Our taste sensations shift mostly in relation to our eating and drinking activity, which is usually very rushed and lacks presence, i.e. we think about a million other things while eating. We are quite insensitive to the feedback from odors and tastes unless they are especially foul or pleasant.


Now, instead of only those normal dim modulations, we can imagine that when we move our head to the right, we also hear a tone that increases in volume, and when we move our head to the left, we hear a tone that decreases in volume. Likewise, when we look up, the tone pitch increases, when we look down, it decreases.

Here are the counts:


Old sample, 662 words.
Categorization of the verbal forms into transitive/used transitively and intransitive/used intransitively according to Chat GPT below. The ratio is 25/13 = 1.92, almost double amount of transitive verbs.



### Transitive/Used Transitively:
1. **Withdrawing** - Being constantly withdrawing away from us
2. **Aid** - A brief example will aid us here
3. **Apprehend** - Apprehend a sense of wholeness
4. **Changes** - The light changes to green
5. **Step** - Step off the brake
6. **Push** - Push the gas pedal
7. **Continue** - Continue driving
8. **Draws** - Being which withdraws from us and also draws us toward
9. **Appropriated** - The emissary has appropriated the role of the Master
10. **Observed** - Jean Piaget observed
11. **Changes** - What we see changes what we know
12. **Submitting** - Willing has appropriated the role of Thinking rather than submitting to the wisdom
13. **Perceived** - Owen Barfield perceived and pointed out
14. **Pointed** - Owen Barfield pointed out
15. **Becomes** - Progress becomes indistinguishable from crisis
16. **Discard** - It desires to discard the past
17. **Push** - Push ahead by any means necessary
18. **Tells** - Heidegger tells us
19. **Means** - "Memory" means as much as devotion
20. **Abiding** - A constant concentrated abiding with something
21. **Impart** - Impart purpose and direction
22. **Stressed** - Steiner's pedagogical approach which stressed
23. **Need** - They need "imagination, a sense of truth, and a feeling of responsibility"
24. **Substitute** - Substitute those mysteries for abstract propositional questions
25. **Demand** - Questions which demand abstract answers


### Intransitive/Used Intransitively:
1. **Fade** - Your mind then starts to 'fade out'
2. **Snap** - You snap back into a mode of being-in-the-world
3. **Confront** - We confront a mere multitude of 'things'
4. **Remain** - The 'right brain' should remain in the role of the "Master"
5. **Submitting** - Willing has appropriated the role of Thinking rather than submitting to the wisdom of its guidance (Note: "submitting to the wisdom" is a transitive use, but here it's categorized based on the full form)
6. **Resides** - Memory (Mnemosyne) in which Thinking resides
7. **Feels** - A life of mere intellect in service of Will feels perpetually oppressed
8. **Resides** - In which Thinking resides (appears in a different context)
9. **Comes** - What is present and with what may come
10. **Remains** - Without this Memory, what remains is only a resentful desire for revenge
11. **Forgets** - Man forgets himself
12. **Forget** - They forget Steiner's pedagogical approach
13. **Demand** - Questions which demand abstract answers in return (used differently in transitive context above)


This categorization considers the verbs in the context they are used within the sentences.




New sample, 665 words.
Here's the categorization of the verbal forms into transitive/used transitively and intransitive/used intransitively according to Chat GPT. The proportion now is 31/35 = 0.88, not quite as many transitive as intransitive verbal forms.




### Transitive/Used Transitively:
1. **Guard** - To guard against ‘inverse crystallization’
2. **Get** - We need to get a feel
3. **Discussed** - We discussed in Part II
4. **Develops** - The instinctive spirit first develops a meaningful orientation
5. **Orients** - It orients to the consonances and dissonances
6. **Harmonizes** - The meaning of various sensory feedback harmonizes
7. **Clashes** - The meaning of various sensory feedback clashes
8. **Acts** - This sensory orientation acts as a set of training wheels
9. **Probe** - To probe the ideal topology
10. **Begin** - Begin knowing itself as a distinct agency
11. **Entrain** - The sensory impacts entrain the movement
12. **Survive** - So we can survive
13. **Become** - Become more independent
14. **Reproduce** - Later reproduce similar movements
15. **Combining** - Combining conceptual fragments
16. **Discerning** - Discerning how they harmonize or clash
17. **Reflect** - We can reflect on the flow
18. **Discuss** - Discuss its functions
19. **Have** - Have this discussion
20. **Treat** - How we treat the spectrum
21. **Develop** - Try to develop a little sensitivity
22. **Conveys** - How the sensory spectrum essentially conveys meaningful feedback
23. **Set** - Set our imaginative activity in motion
24. **Heighten** - Heighten sensitivity
25. **Notice** - We can first notice
26. **Changes** - Our visual field changes
27. **Hear** - We may hear the buzzing of a computer
28. **Imagine** - We can imagine that when we move our head
29. **Hear** - We also hear a tone that increases in volume
30. **Decreases** - We hear a tone that decreases in volume
31. **Look** - When we look up, the tone pitch increases


### Intransitive/Used Intransitively:
1. **Retracing** - Into which we are retracing
2. **Begin** - Let’s begin with a broad overview
3. **Develops** - The instinctive spirit first develops a meaningful orientation
4. **Orients** - It orients to the consonances and dissonances
5. **Acts** - This sensory orientation acts as a set of training wheels
6. **Probe** - To probe the ideal topology
7. **Begin** - Begin knowing itself as a distinct agency
8. **Survive** - So we can survive
9. **Become** - Become more independent
10. **Reproduce** - Later reproduce similar movements
11. **Develops** - Logical thinking develops
12. **Combining** - When combining conceptual fragments
13. **Harmonize** - How they harmonize or clash with each other
14. **Sense** - It is difficult for us to concretely sense this function
15. **Distancing** - Distancing ourselves from the sensory flow
16. **Discuss** - Discuss its functions
17. **Immersed** - Was still immersed in and entrained by the meaningful sensory flow
18. **Entrained** - Immersed in and entrained by the meaningful sensory flow
19. **Have** - Have this discussion
20. **Feels** - The spectrum feels like rigidified feedback
21. **Drop** - We drop into unconsciousness
22. **Have** - No longer have this sensory feedback
23. **Develop** - We can try to develop a little sensitivity
24. **Set** - Set our imaginative activity in motion
25. **Changes** - Our visual field changes
26. **Hear** - Our audial spectrum will also shift
27. **Shift** - Our audial spectrum will also shift
28. **Shift** - Our taste sensations shift mostly in relation to our eating
29. **Move** - When we move our head
30. **Hear** - We also hear a tone that increases in volume
31. **Increases** - We hear a tone that increases in volume
32. **Decreases** - We hear a tone that decreases in volume
33. **Look** - When we look up, the tone pitch increases
34. **Increases** - The tone pitch increases
35. **Decreases** - When we look down, it decreases


This categorization considers the verbs in the context they are used within the sentences.


Big difference! As said, it remains to see whether it is statistically significant.
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AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm Throughout the essays, I have been purposefully revisiting the same intuitions of spiritual activity and its various modes of expression with different words, terminology, metaphors, etc. This approach may be asking too much of most readers, to begin with. Another approach is to stick to a few core metaphors and terminology drawn from them and consistently use that throughout (such as Cleric's phonograph metaphor). Probably that would be the most accessible gradient. In fact, I don't think my essays will be of much use to anyone who isn't already well-versed in thinking through PoF-style phenomenology and also the core research of spiritual science. It may simply help them approach it from a variety of different concrete angles and solidify intuitive orientation while exercising their imaginative activity.

For that to work, it is also up to the reader not to get too focused on the particular words used and the various connotations that these invoke for them, but try to follow the reasoning and the underlying principle that is being approached, independently of the connotations. I think it probably requires a good amount of 'heavy lifting' in that sense, more so than the typical phenomenological exploration. Fundamentally, Kuhlewind is speaking of the very same differentiations of spiritual activity that Steiner makes in his epistemological works and we have made on this forum using different terms of expression. Through imaginative development, we should find it easier and easier to move between these different verbal styles and expressions, transitive and intransitive verbs, and whatnot, mining the core intuitive essence of inner experience that they are triangulating. (I would also be interested in seeing the AI evaluation of my intransitive verb usage :) )

The reason why I am able to point to a connotation, and say that in my opinion it is less helpful than another one, is precisely that I am focussed on the reasoning and the underlying principle, independent of the various possible connotations.


AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm The subconscious and the superconscious are certainly not mutually exclusive, but as always, we are dealing with a polarity. In that sense, you are correct that the subconscious habits (finished forms of experience) are always acting as supportive constraints to kindle and orient our superconscious capacities, just as the text we read orients us toward meaningful domains of intuition and constrains our spiritual activity from exploring altogether unhelpful domains of meaning. For ex., this text should constrain our spiritual activity from wandering off into thoughts about who will win an upcoming political election (if we aren't interacting with it associatively :) ). I agree the term 'useless' can be misleading for that reason - clearly, there is an indispensable use or function for the finished forms of experience in the spiritual evolutionary process.

I believe Kuhlewind is highlighting that the premade forms should not be mistaken for the cause of new ideal, psychic, or material forms, which is the standard habit of thinking. The default intuition is that the meaning of a text arises through a bottom-up combination of letters and words, for example, whereas the reality is that meaning always arrives from the 'other direction' of the perceptual aspects, from within our form-free spiritual activity. So the forms are 'useless' for generating new meanings of their own accord. I also believe Miller (and perhaps GSB) are speaking of "form" as the mode of spiritual activity, which can be confusing (for them, "content" is what we are referring to as "form" here). The more we refine our form-free capacities, the more meaning we can incarnate within the finished forms.


Ok, I may have misinterpreted Miller and the Laws of Form. I haven’t read anything of either of these authors beyond your quotes.

AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm Ok, if we are defining "pleasure" to be the very fact of agentic existence :) , then I would omit that word. I hope that it's still clear the sort of distinction that is being made. The main point is to differentiate what is needed for the highest spiritual stages from anything we are familiar with in our normal experience of pursuing knowledge and ideals. We should be careful not to let ourselves off the hook, so to speak, by considering "pleasure" (or satisfaction, etc.) an intrinsic part of spiritual development, to the extent that it becomes completely entangled with our efforts, a primary motivator, and we feel that is OK. We simply can't reach the higher stages that way. The further we retrace, the more crystal clear we need to become on our underlying motivations. The fundamental inversion is that from selfishness to selflessness. 

It may be useful to vividly imagine that we suddenly become materialists or no-self mystics at the threshold of Intuitive cognition, in the sense that we cannot be sure whether our individual existence will even continue when we entrust our intuitive being to the Divine. We can't be sure we won't be fully merged back into the Absolute and lose the very sense of being attracted along a definite path of development, but nevertheless, we absolutely trust that this self-surrender is for the Good of the Cosmic Whole. I am not saying this is necessarily how it is experienced, but it may be a useful way to approximate the 'fear and dread of the infinite yawning abyss' that Steiner discusses below.

I don't intend pleasure as the very fact of agentic existence, but as a way to characterize the experience of accord, alignment and harmony that the spirit lives in, when a free choice is not only conceived and embraced but also sustained in action, followed through, impressed. Such coherence is experienced with positivity, fulfillment, pleasure. Why would you omit the word, when we find it in this sense even in the Bible? For example in Matthew 3:17 “And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

In any case, yes, the distinction that is being made is clear. Perhaps when you warn against considering pleasure an intrinsic part or spiritual development, you do that in relation to an idea of pleasure as sensual, rather than the one I have tried to illustrate? On the fear and dread of the infinite yawning abyss: I am familiar with some of Steiner’s descriptions, it is the fear and dread of losing the comfortable and familiar footing provided by the physical body and its spacetime nature. I have no problem imagining the experience as strongly unpleasant, however one is inevitably still pleased, at a more elevated level of contextuality, with the path that leads there, and through that frightening experience. That's why the path is pursued in the first place. There’s an attraction that pulls in the direction the will has set sails towards, and one shall be pleased with that flow.


AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm
Federica wrote:This comment is not referred specifically to what you are saying here with regards to impressing activity in writing (your reservations about the effects of writing a book are very understandable). It's a more general impression that, from an external perspective, it seems like you are trying to solve an impossible conundrum, fighting potential patterns and counter-patterns of attraction by dissolving the individual viewpoint? How to face indeterminacy then? Because incarnated existence does not allow for the potential to conserve its potentiality, otherwise it wouldn't be incarnated. As I recently said, all this may come across as arbitrariness. The question seems to be present throughout this thread and also in your recent comments on psychoactives and ascetic practices.

I can't quite hone in on the intuition you are expressing here, although I am sure it is a reasonable one and useful to explore further. Can you elaborate on it a bit more?
I will keep this for another post!
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Federica wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:33 pm
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:40 pm Through imaginative development, we should find it easier and easier to move between these different verbal styles and expressions, transitive and intransitive verbs, and whatnot, mining the core intuitive essence of inner experience that they are triangulating. (I would also be interested in seeing the AI evaluation of my intransitive verb usage :) )
Ok, I've done a brief verb check. I will later come to the rest of your post. I have picked only 2 samples and compared them in Chat GPT, so completely insufficient, but it gives a hint. :)

From your oldest essay in this forum, I have picked the first long enough chunk of uninterrupted text, that is not interspersed with quotes. You were quoting much more extensively then.

Thanks for this analysis, Federica! Most importantly, I think you are the first to find a spiritually redemptive function for GPT style LLM on this forum. (aside from the search engine utility) :)

I am not exactly sure what it reveals in this context, if much of anything, but the general idea of studying patterns of linguistic development seems like it could be pretty useful as spiritual feedback along the inner path.

The analysis here reminds me of what I wrote in Part I:

Every sensation in the life story was a tiny impact by which spiritual activity became a bit more conscious of itself, just as a verb is anchored by its nouns. Try to imagine the meaning of ‘falling’ in the absence of any object. This will be experienced as very difficult, as if we are lost in a forest, trying to find due north, but our compass needle keeps swinging back and forth. On the other hand, when we imagine a definite object falling, let’s say an apple, the meaning of the verb is anchored for us – we gain a stable orientation within the flow of activity.

A core element of retracing is learning to orient more within the realm of verbs (spiritual activity) without anchoring its meaning with nouns (perceptions), at least not the sort of fragmented spatiotemporal nouns that we are used to. In that sense, the trend of using more intransitive verbs could be a sign of some imaginative development, better orientation to spiritual activity that isn't necessarily acting on some definite sense-based object. It seems to me that would naturally become more utilized as one starts to try and illustrate higher stages of development, which I was in no position to do with the early essays. Although I have to admit that, after surveying the lists that were provided and comparing them, the primary feedback for me is that I can't easily spot the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs :)
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Federica wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:35 pm I don't intend pleasure as the very fact of agentic existence, but as a way to characterize the experience of accord, alignment and harmony that the spirit lives in, when a free choice is not only conceived and embraced but also sustained in action, followed through, impressed. Such coherence is experienced with positivity, fulfillment, pleasure. Why would you omit the word, when we find it in this sense even in the Bible? For example in Matthew 3:17 “And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

In any case, yes, the distinction that is being made is clear. Perhaps when you warn against considering pleasure an intrinsic part or spiritual development, you do that in relation to an idea of pleasure as sensual, rather than the one I have tried to illustrate? On the fear and dread of the infinite yawning abyss: I am familiar with some of Steiner’s descriptions, it is the fear and dread of losing the comfortable and familiar footing provided by the physical body and its spacetime nature. I have no problem imagining the experience as strongly unpleasant, however one is inevitably still pleased, at a more elevated level of contextuality, with the path that leads there, and through that frightening experience. That's why the path is pursued in the first place. There’s an attraction that pulls in the direction the will has set sails towards, and one shall be pleased with that flow.

Correct, which is why I responded, "Right, I should have specified that I am speaking of sensual or psychic pleasure" :)

I add psychic pleasure to include emotional satisfaction and the sort of intellectual satisfaction we normally feel when pursuing and consuming knowledge.
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