Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:11 pm
Being of a mythopoetic disposition I prefer compound neologisms that describe a formlessness><form state ~ not arising from any prior state, but as the fundamental, uncaused, irreducible state ~ a not-two duet, such as
emptifullness or Scott's
mumorphism, keeping in mind that as Lao Tzu put it,
"true words seem paradoxical", and whereby with the fusion the confusion ends.
I also held this stance once, but now my take it is that it still assumes something which we cannot prove. I really don't feel comfortable standing in uncertain certainty...I much prefer pure uncertainty. This doesn't mean I don't value pragmatism and choosing theories to live by that feel good and do good...it is just to say I don't want to take on an ontological belief I can't prove. If God is real, what if they don't even know...this seems highly likely tbh...or maybe pandeism is right and the creator became what it created...or maybe nihilism has it right and there is no purpose or reality besides that which we create and that which nature has evolved to be and like you say primacy comes down to a lack of causality. I don't think this is unprovable, but it also doesn't seem provable.
My personal take right now takes the pragmatism from pandeism and the ontology of prryhonism/skepticism. I also like the starseed/alien theory that we are actually divine ourself and being tested here as an "angel in training" kind of. Essentially the theory is that in order to "ascend" to higher dimensions of reality and escape the suffering experienced here, we must do the best we can in this life and based on our efforts we fall where we fall on the ladder of ascension. Some say we must take every incarnation form before we are able to oversee a planet/star system as an "angel" / alien in command, so you can empathize and know every experience. The theory also states that we might be at the leading edge of the universe with our core star being "God/Source" from all which came (not a personified being but basically just a star with insane consciousness. I have also heard that magnetism could be the substrate by which all matter (light manifested as the reality we see from Source) is put into motion and made into "life" and it is electromagnetism that is the reason for life...the dance of emptiness and fullness manifest in synergistic energy, creating sentience which then creates sapience. Imagine Source as this giant star that exploded at one point and created us all but only did so because it gained self awareness and as every sentient being does, it does something about that and tries to understand why and how self and what self can do...so the universe was born...no imagine a tetrahedron of universes, scaled infinitely into fractalization, creating dimensions for which we may travel and perceive. Scientists say that in every cell there is the complexity of a universe according to new imagine capabilities...perhaps the lower dimensions and "hells" are just what we're made of...I mean when we zoom in...things kinda look evil and demonic right? Imagine if we start as a virus and have to ascend to become Gods o.O
At the end of the day, maybe what is most important is that our belief system gives us hope, pragmatism, and virtue instead of the opposites...depression, fantasy, and sociopathy...which seems really easy to fall into and not even know it under the guise of "the right belief". How tragic would it be if nihilism were right and instead of feeling empowered and pragmatic that we have evolved as this...and amazed/in awe of us coming from evolution...but then feeling depressed about there not being more and let down that you were mislead by others...and that is your belief system...straight up depression resulting from a seeming betrayal of trust facilitated by the cycle of abused trust starting with the one who created the belief system from their ego and denial...but even then you can't blame them because they were just well articulated story tellers who thought they knew what was up and had to tell everyone...whoops...just created a TON of suffering despite trying to help...yoikes.