Soul Initiation/metamorphosis

[Soul_of_Shu]

This discussion from NTA gets into some Jung-inspired ideas about how our soul initiation process, on a collective level, has become stuck in arrested development, seeming an interesting counterpoint to much of the recent discussion herein on the idea of soul ascension into a transfigured psychic stage, assisted by entities of the empyrean domain, as put forth by Cleric ~ all the while relying evocatively on the metaphor of metamorphosis ... Feedback?

[AshvinP]

This discussion from NTA gets into some Jung-inspired ideas about how our soul initiation process, on a collective level, has become stuck in arrested development, seeming an interesting counterpoint to much of the recent discussion herein on the idea of soul ascension into a transfigured psychic stage, assisted by entities of the empyrean domain, as put forth by Cleric ~ all the while relying evocatively on the metaphor of metamorphosis ...

My first thought is that the very existence of this discussion is evidence of what Cleric is putting forth. We are coming to know, or to have the capacity to know, how soul initiation and spiritual ascent is possible and available to all who seek. And it will only become more and more evident to those who pay attention moving forward. Yet ultimately it is our responsibility to choose whether we will seriously participate or not.

[AshvinP]

This discussion from NTA gets into some Jung-inspired ideas about how our soul initiation process, on a collective level, has become stuck in arrested development, seeming an interesting counterpoint to much of the recent discussion herein on the idea of soul ascension into a transfigured psychic stage, assisted by entities of the empyrean domain, as put forth by Cleric ~ all the while relying evocatively on the metaphor of metamorphosis ...

My first thought is that the very existence of this discussion is evidence of what Cleric is putting forth. We are coming to know, or to have the capacity to know, how soul initiation and spiritual ascent is possible and available to all who seek. And it will only become more and more evident to those who pay attention moving forward. Yet ultimately it is our responsibility to choose whether we will seriously participate or not.

My second thought is related to what I mentioned briefly on the other thread - Jung focuses on digging through the depths of the Soul while Steiner focuses on ascending through the possibilities of the Spirit. Which is not to say those are mutually exclusive, or that either one does not recognize the importance of the other, but only that the former (Jung) does seem to skew towards a certain pessimism about our existential situation. Or at least it is highly skeptical of anyone who seems too optimistic about that situation. A union of Jung-Steiner in this regard seems a very promising approach to me.

FYI I am working on a paper and taking breaks to comment so I haven't actually watched the video yet, but just writing my initial thoughts before they disappear.