Individualism
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:07 pm
Bringing this 'lead' OP over from GoogleGroups:
Santeri Satama <ssatama@gmail.com> Jan 6, 2021, 6:37 AM
Indian philosopher discusses Western metaphysical politics of individualism in contrast to Hindu notions of self and person. He notes that as a liberatory philosophy, that individualism promises to be, it has utterly failed and been mostly a tool of colonialism.
https://iai.tv/video/the-different-plac ... _auid=2020#
Kastrup's concept of Markov Blanket as the social sphere could be actually closer to the Hindu view as presented here, than individualism of distinct boundaries.
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My comment stemming from that is:
The relationship of 'individuals' to 'society' is analog-us to the relationship between a 'finger' and the 'hand' it is 'on'.
Mixing more metaphors: The 'individual' is a function(ary) of the 'hand' and dependent on the 'hand' for its existence (imagine a 'baby' in a 'vacuum' and an 'adult' 'in outer space' for confirmation).
Neither the society nor the individuals comprising it could functionally 'flourish' or 'flower' without their mutual/reciprocal support and connection./devotion.
They serve their (respective) purposes thereby. Their respective 'lives' would be meaningless otherwise!
My comment about the above comment and its relation to most of those in preceding it (in the thread it branch-stems from) is that this one is analogous to a clear-seeing steady-standing cowboy facing off with a swirling hand-and-leg dance of martial-arts 'master'.
The value of an ideational-scheme is its practical utility.
Kapow!
Santeri Satama <ssatama@gmail.com> Jan 6, 2021, 6:37 AM
Indian philosopher discusses Western metaphysical politics of individualism in contrast to Hindu notions of self and person. He notes that as a liberatory philosophy, that individualism promises to be, it has utterly failed and been mostly a tool of colonialism.
https://iai.tv/video/the-different-plac ... _auid=2020#
Kastrup's concept of Markov Blanket as the social sphere could be actually closer to the Hindu view as presented here, than individualism of distinct boundaries.
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My comment stemming from that is:
The relationship of 'individuals' to 'society' is analog-us to the relationship between a 'finger' and the 'hand' it is 'on'.
Mixing more metaphors: The 'individual' is a function(ary) of the 'hand' and dependent on the 'hand' for its existence (imagine a 'baby' in a 'vacuum' and an 'adult' 'in outer space' for confirmation).
Neither the society nor the individuals comprising it could functionally 'flourish' or 'flower' without their mutual/reciprocal support and connection./devotion.
They serve their (respective) purposes thereby. Their respective 'lives' would be meaningless otherwise!
My comment about the above comment and its relation to most of those in preceding it (in the thread it branch-stems from) is that this one is analogous to a clear-seeing steady-standing cowboy facing off with a swirling hand-and-leg dance of martial-arts 'master'.
The value of an ideational-scheme is its practical utility.
Kapow!