What to make of this relationship of you and I?

[Soul_of_Shu]

With the indelible felt realization that the Awareness under the spell of being the dream of 'you' is none other than the Awareness under the spell of being the dream of 'me', whereby the notion that 1 plus 1 makes 2 is now revealed to be entirely provisional and spell-dependent, then what remains with the dispelling of that spell? And then what is to be made of this relationship that is the dream of you and I? It now seems that one can only be compelled to endeavour to make it less suffering prone, since to in any way make it more suffering prone just feels absurdly masochistic. No doubt, someOne can argue vehemently with this, but that too somehow feels suffering prone ... unless it's secretly enjoyable.

[Starbuck]

With the indelible felt realization that the Awareness under the spell of being the dream of 'you' is none other than the Awareness under the spell of being the dream of 'me', whereby the notion that 1 plus 1 makes 2 is now revealed to be entirely provisional and spell-dependent, then what remains with the dispelling of that spell? And then what is to be made of this relationship that is the dream of you and I? It now seems that one can only be compelled to endeavour to make it less suffering prone, since to in any way make it more suffering prone just feels absurdly masochistic. No doubt, someOne can argue vehemently with this, but that too somehow feels suffering prone ... unless it's secretly enjoyable.

Pleasure is to happiness as the delusional alter is to mind at large.

[Eugene I]

Just a flow of life perceived through many eyes of one Awareness, with the eyes sharing and enriching their life experiences with each other.

[Lou Gold]

what remains with the dispelling of that spell?

Liberation from philosophy.

[Soul_of_Shu]

what remains with the dispelling of that spell?

Liberation from philosophy.

How philosophical !

[Lou Gold]

what remains with the dispelling of that spell?

Liberation from philosophy.

How philosophical !

Apparently!

[Soul_of_Shu]

Just a flow of life perceived through many eyes of one Awareness, with the eyes sharing and enriching their life experiences with each other.

I had a dream last night evoking this imagery, and upon awakening, while reflecting upon it, it occurred to me that gradually over many years my dreamtime life has become far less suffering prone, with the cessation of horrific/violent nightmares, and is now far more heuristic and sanative. I wonder too if this might be a metaphorical analog for M@L's relational dream of being 'you' and 'I', and all sentient beings, somehow yearning and learning, oh-so-incrementally over aeons, to render this shared experience less suffering prone, in its metamorphic transfiguration ... Dare anyOne dream it could be so?

[Eugene I]

I had a dream last night evoking this imagery, and upon awakening, while reflecting upon it, it occurred to me that gradually over many years my dreamtime life has become far less suffering prone, with the cessation of horrific/violent nightmares, and is now far more heuristic and sanative. I wonder too if this might be a metaphorical analog for M@L's relational dream of being 'you' and 'I', and all sentient beings, somehow yearning and learning, oh-so-incrementally over aeons, to render this shared experience less suffering prone, in its metamorphic transfiguration ... Dare anyOne dream it could be so?

Right, separate self construct is a tension and source of neuroses, internal conflicts and tensions in the unconscious from where our dreams emerge. Once transcended and not fueled anymore from conscious, it looses its momentum and all those tensions and neuroses gradually dissolve making dreams peaceful and tension-free. But it is a slow process and takes a long time.

[Soul_of_Shu]

Right, separate self construct is a tension and source of neuroses, internal conflicts and tensions in the unconscious from where our dreams emerge. Once transcended and not fueled anymore from conscious, it looses its momentum and all those tensions and neuroses gradually dissolve making dreams peaceful and tension-free. But it is a slow process and takes a long time.

Good to know that you can affirm this from your experience and dreamwork, and that in this regard everyOne may be evolving ~ however slowly it may be, however long it may take, forever and ever, Amen