Adur Alkain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:38 am Thank you, Ashvin!
Yes, I think what you are saying is fairly accurate
I feel that Bernardo's thinking still has some unacknowledged "materialistic residue". More accurately, he is still influenced by the defining characteristic of Western thought (according to A. H. Almaas): the mistaken belief in a fundamental separation between self (or soul), world (or cosmos) and Being (or God).
The experiment I'm proposing, if it confirmed my predictions, would effectively prove the existence of God. And it would show that there is no real separation between our individual consciousness (or soul), the world we experience, and the ultimate true nature and source of it all, Being or God.
That said, I don't think it will be surprising for you to hear that I feel slightly trepidatious about the whole thing. Because if my theory is correct and the experiment got done and proved it, the implications would be far too overwhelming (for me personally, at least).
It would be much easier for me to stay within the familiar terrain of pure philosophical speculation, and forget all about the damn experiment. But ever since the idea occurred to me about a year and a half ago, I've felt compelled to put it out there. I have resisted it somewhat, telling myself it must be nonsense, but it just won't go away. So here it is.
And no, I haven't done anything to promote it, apart of posting it here. I've thought about talking to professional physicists (something quite difficult to do for a complete outsider like me), but I've come to the conclusion that it wouldn't be worth it. I think most physicists would be uncapable of taking my interpretation seriously. I thought about asking them exclusively about the feasibility of the experiment, but a little research on my part showed me that this apparently simple experiment in reality presents some probably unsurmountable technical difficulties. What a relief! Haha
So, even if the experiment made sense in principle (and I really think it does, if I'm honest), to try to actually perform it in practice would probably take a lot of work, maybe by a whole team of dedicated, talented scientists, toiling together for months or years to try to find a way of circumventing the technical problems (but like I said, it may well prove to be technically impossible). Maybe this will happen in the future, who knows? Maybe a new generation of idealist physicists will come to the fore... As for me, right now I feel by putting the idea out there I've already done enough.
Adur,
That's a very intriguing issue in and of itself (the technical difficulty or impossibility). I was thinking, if exoteric science were able to prove "God" in this manner, or at least the fundamental Unity of all-being in the world, that would sort of circumvent the need for each individual to discover this truth from within themselves, so as to make us truly free spirits capable of voluntary and eager sacrifice for the benefit of the Whole. Based on the metamorphic progression of all human culture over the epochs and ages, among other considerations, I am fairly convinced that must happen for each individual going forward. So the technical impossibility makes sense to me from a 'Karmic destiny' perspective. It makes more sense that these major scientific breakthroughs will occur in the broader culture once things get a lot more... let's say, 'challenging' from here.
"Materialistic residue" is a great way to put it! I am curious, did you see that phrase somewhere else or just intuit it? I am actually writing about this some in a new essay, but I will share some brief thoughts here. As most people know, Jung discussed the notion of the "Shadow" and the psychological operation of "compensation", when people 'make up' for unacknowledged deficiencies in their personality, relationships, careers, etc. by unconsciously moving in the opposite direction. So a person who is extremely introverted but not come to terms with it may become excessively annoying and boisterous in certain public outbursts, or vice versa. It seems we could apply this to worldviews as well. An idealist who is completely failing to account for spiritual reality, and/or keeping it as a vague abstract concept in the background of their philosophy, make actually lean more towards materialist understandings of the world to compensate.
A lot more could be said on this topic... but I think I will leave it there for now, as you get my point