Re: Can we say Matter Actually Exists Under Idealism?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:13 pm
Seems to me, that it's around this time in the discussion, that someone shoud come about and kick the water pitcher...
Isan
Isan
Would 'matter' then not be those phenomenal, representational forms that conform to the rule set of this corporeal construct, e.g. the gravitational rule, or whatever rules that determine that a hand can't pass through a brick wall. Although, due to certain experiences where 'matter' has defied such rules, I'm not quite sure of that either.AshvinP wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:41 pmI think we should distinguish between "representation" and "matter" here. I am using the latter as a more specified form of representation. My intellectual thoughts about Reality are also representations, but they are not "matter". Also, we should recognize under idealism that all concepts-ideas are relational. What is "matter" today is defined by its current relation to what is "mind" (or any similar terms). That does not mean it's a purely "subjective" definition, rather it is an objective relational definition.
Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:59 amWould 'matter' then not be those phenomenal, representational forms that conform to the rule set of this corporeal construct, e.g. the gravitational rule, or whatever rules that determine that a hand can't pass through a brick wall. Although, due to certain experiences where 'matter' has defied such rules, I'm not quite sure of that either.AshvinP wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:41 pmI think we should distinguish between "representation" and "matter" here. I am using the latter as a more specified form of representation. My intellectual thoughts about Reality are also representations, but they are not "matter". Also, we should recognize under idealism that all concepts-ideas are relational. What is "matter" today is defined by its current relation to what is "mind" (or any similar terms). That does not mean it's a purely "subjective" definition, rather it is an objective relational definition.