Re: Philosophy in the Matrix movies: what's the relationship (if any) with BK's Analytic Idealism and/or Consciousness?
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:06 pm
First post of the morning. Wish this site had a longer edit cooldown period; what someone says on the spur of the now is blitz chess, a patchwork facsimile of their actual internal congregation. I think a really intelligent data analysis on youtube mentioned that before, "it's all about live debates, respond now!" but that doesn't really suffice to learn anything and learning is what I want to do.
"Why would anyone be afraid of that? Most of them are outright miserable because they're disconnected and having ideals sold to them so JP can make a buck while they languish, that's why they don't feel very good. Everyone is looking for people to 'join a cause' to absolve their suffering or loneliness and such causes tend to predate upon these exact intuitive leanings. The only way to fix one's life is to confront where that life sits relevant to the problems they have, having the right advice (JP does give some of this.) only helps to some degree. You must act on reality, albeit perhaps in relation to those intuitions. Loosely topical; you should start a youtube channel, I'd have a better overview of your premise so I could formulate a better understanding of it and you'd probably enjoy the money too."
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">saying I have to see his subjective opinion as objective or I don't have any basis to believe mine-
no u, you might have already died in the 1930s. See the above story. Same here, btw."
I would've left this out, that part's useless fluff and I was rude.
Stories do a lot of cool things but they aren't all archetype christ/ascension analogues and Matrix wouldn't be the Mona Lisa even for that one insular niche, Matrix is a profoundly industrialized John Woo flick that a lot of normies like and has fun fight scenes. I sure would not want to live within it's post apocalyptic world and I don't really find the exact specific circumstances of it's world building serves as a bewitching analogue to our likely future or present circumstances. Machines are way less likely to need to siphon our life energy and if we let them get out of control we're probably not going to get a chance to strike back, that's one very profound plus to Christianity; it may lead us to reneging on our insistent need to progress without giving reflection to what it all means. A conservative/naturalist set of ideals is probably for the best given our current landscape. The Matrix is a hypothetical and not due to the actors at play in it's plot but the details of how everything works in it's worldbuilding, it doesn't remotely approach an allegory IMHO because the reality will play out far more oppressively if it's allowed to get to that point
Summarized: my question is; how is Matrix an idealistic intuitive reflection? If anything it's the real blue pill, a romanticizing of circumstances that would spell our end if they ever materialized. That's a future to prevent, in reality, not put on a pedestal
"Why would anyone be afraid of that? Most of them are outright miserable because they're disconnected and having ideals sold to them so JP can make a buck while they languish, that's why they don't feel very good. Everyone is looking for people to 'join a cause' to absolve their suffering or loneliness and such causes tend to predate upon these exact intuitive leanings. The only way to fix one's life is to confront where that life sits relevant to the problems they have, having the right advice (JP does give some of this.) only helps to some degree. You must act on reality, albeit perhaps in relation to those intuitions. Loosely topical; you should start a youtube channel, I'd have a better overview of your premise so I could formulate a better understanding of it and you'd probably enjoy the money too."
fixed
and
">saying I have to see his subjective opinion as objective or I don't have any basis to believe mine-
no u, you might have already died in the 1930s. See the above story. Same here, btw."
I would've left this out, that part's useless fluff and I was rude.
Stories do a lot of cool things but they aren't all archetype christ/ascension analogues and Matrix wouldn't be the Mona Lisa even for that one insular niche, Matrix is a profoundly industrialized John Woo flick that a lot of normies like and has fun fight scenes. I sure would not want to live within it's post apocalyptic world and I don't really find the exact specific circumstances of it's world building serves as a bewitching analogue to our likely future or present circumstances. Machines are way less likely to need to siphon our life energy and if we let them get out of control we're probably not going to get a chance to strike back, that's one very profound plus to Christianity; it may lead us to reneging on our insistent need to progress without giving reflection to what it all means. A conservative/naturalist set of ideals is probably for the best given our current landscape. The Matrix is a hypothetical and not due to the actors at play in it's plot but the details of how everything works in it's worldbuilding, it doesn't remotely approach an allegory IMHO because the reality will play out far more oppressively if it's allowed to get to that point
Summarized: my question is; how is Matrix an idealistic intuitive reflection? If anything it's the real blue pill, a romanticizing of circumstances that would spell our end if they ever materialized. That's a future to prevent, in reality, not put on a pedestal