Eugene I wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:10 pm
But I have a question for you. What do you think is the reason for us as primordial living ideas to incarnate in such cognitively reduced and seemingly separated form of human existence (with physical and ethereal bodies)? Or in simple words, why do we incarnate into humans?
We can only understand this if the question is placed in a proper context. Recently there was a question why alters have to eat. I posted this:
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Questions like this can only be answered meaningfully if we take them in the full evolutionary context. The widespread new-age-like opinion is that the world above is like a heavenly lobby where souls are having a drink and then some say "Hey, why don't we drop down to good ol' Earth for a change." It's natural that with such conceptions it should look completely arbitrary that alters have to eat or incarnate on Earth.
It's similar with the incarnation question. As long as we imagine the disincarnate life as completely free flow, it faces us as a great mystery why would anyone take the pains of incarnate life.
I won't go in details here. Just few points. We must understand that the spiritual metamorphosis follows the same archetypal rhythmic flow on all scales. There's no better symbol than the growing plant which blossoms, gives fruit, then seed and from the seed a new iteration begins. The first-person spiritual perspective goes continually through such iterations, which are really nested iterations - iterations within iterations (one such is the waking/sleeping rhythm, which is fractal of the incarnation rhythm).
Things will become much more clear if we understand that what we witness today is also expression of the archetypal time rhythms but has been heavily polarized through the fall drama. In other circumstances the evolutionary flow would much rather be experienced as
continuous (uninterrupted) stream of consciousness which passes rhythmically through sensory-like spectrum (which would be vastly different of course), then integrating into a totality from which a seed is extracted, from which the new iteration grows. It would be like going through waking in the fine-grained spectrum of consciousness, then something as expanding in a lucid dream that grows in Cosmic space, as the spirit tries to make sense of reality, until it begins to see the seed-tasks out of which the manifold elemental realms grow once again. Instead, this spectrum has become gradually polarized to such an extent that the spirit operating in the senses and intellect, so to speak oscillates orthogonally to the time dimension. The dimension of time is something quite real, even though not in the abstract way that mathematicians and physicists seek to imagine it as fourth geometric dimension. The dimension of time can only be grasped in the spirit of the post at the other thread, by attaining to the overarching ideas that extend in time and shape the curvature of meaning within which the states of being decohere (acts as a kind of wave function. For example, we can imagine states of being anywhere in space but the curvature of spacetime filters only those states of being which are compatible with the Earth along the geodesic). In this way, consciousness in the sensory-intellectual spectrum experiences itself only as succession of horizontal moment-slices. The logic of this progression of moments can be thought of only abstractly by modelling it through mathematical laws. So incarnate being completely loses consciousness along time, which is really to live in ideas that extend in time and shape the curvature along which the moment-slices decohere. After death, consciousness lives in the time domain but now the spectrum of the Earthly consciousness seems completely blurry because it oscillates in convoluted mechanical rhythms which are very different from the time-rhythms of the Harmony of the Spheres. Thus the space and time poles of the incarnate iteration has become out-of-phase, they've become orthogonal to each other.
This orthogonality of consciousness is what we're called upon to resolve today. We need to find the degrees of freedom of the spirit which run perpendicularly to the horizontal slices of sensory-intellectual consciousness along time. Physicists want to predict the path of planets through the curvature of spacetime but no one is interested to find that curvature as spiritual reality of Cosmic ideas along which the destiny of humanity unfolds.
So in a nutshell - we incarnate as humans because the spirit is going through archetypal rhythmic iterations. This is at the basis of any existence in Time. It's a fractal of meaningful outbreaths and inbreaths. So the question translates to something like "why when a baby is born it has to go through childhood." It is all a matter of rhythmic development, from seed, through growth to seed again. Of course, every next seed builds upon everything preceding it such that every next iteration could make more and more sense of the totality.
If the question is why these incarnations look the way they do, it is because of the severe polarization of the iterations, resulting in unprecedented orthogonality of consciousness. Through sin, incarnate consciousness has spread horizontally and entangled into oscillatory patterns that we know as the Earthly life. This in its very nature causes incarnate consciousness to turn away from spiritual reality because of the feelings of shame and guilt that stand on its way. So through many iterations the uninterrupted stream of consciousness should be restored and the spirit will begin to operate not only along the horizontal space plane (sensory-intellectual consciousness) but also along the axis of time. If we don't mess this up, we should gradually become conscious and artful engineers of the curvature of meaning along time. But for this to happen the forces of egoism (disproportionate sympathies and antipathies) must be overcome.