Re: Message from BK
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:24 pm
I agree. A dedicated category will be nice. Although at this point I don't see how much further than the "What is alter?" thread it would go.
I agree. A dedicated category will be nice. Although at this point I don't see how much further than the "What is alter?" thread it would go.
We already have the topic-specific sub-section where one can start a discussion around a specific aspect of BK's ideas, and where any commentary that does not remain focused on that specific aspect will be moderated accordingly, and deleted if deemed too digressive from that specific aspect. So for example, if the topic were to be focused on an explication/elaboration of the 'cognitive big bang' as described in More Than Allegory, or a discussion about the psychedelic experiments explored in Dreamed Up Reality, or similar such topics, I would not be allowing commentary that tries to divert it into an opportunity to discuss the Kantian divide. However, if something about the cognitive big bang can be related to some aspect of another philosopher's work, then I would give some leeway for allowing that insofar as it remains relevant to the main topic.
Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:50 pmWe already have the topic-specific sub-section where one can start a discussion around a specific aspect of BK's ideas, and where any commentary that does not remain focused on that specific aspect will be moderated accordingly, and deleted if deemed too digressive from that specific aspect. So for example, if the topic were to be focused on an explication/elaboration of the 'cognitive big bang' as described in More Than Allegory, or a discussion about the psychedelic experiments explored in Dreamed Up Reality, or similar such topics, I would not be allowing commentary that tries to divert it into an opportunity to discuss the Kantian divide. However, if something about the cognitive big bang can be related to some aspect of another philosopher's work, then I would give some leeway for allowing that insofar as it remains relevant to the main topic.
But failing that, if there is still significant interest in a cloistered 'all-things-Bernardo' sub-section, devoid of any critical comparisons to other philosophers, religions, or shamanhood etc, please feel free to let me know here, or via PM
To be clear, if someone initiates a general discussion about BK's model in the general discussion section, and someone else feels the need to point out that in their estimation, the model in some way perpetuates the so-called noumenal/phenomenal Kantian divide, which is then subject to rebuttal from those who disagree with that assertion, then that is all fair game as far as I'm concerned, as long as it doesn't degenerate into antagonistic, pejorative polemic. However, if someone wants to initiate a topic-specific discussion focused on a specific aspect of BK's ideas, with the expectation that it won't be sidetracked into assertions about the perpetuation of the Kantian divide, then please do so in the topic-specific section, and I will do my best to ensure that it stays focused on the topic of interest. Likewise, if someone wants to initiate a topic-specific discussion about how BK's model does, or does not, perpetuate the Kantian divide, then go for it.Ben Iscatus wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:33 am I've been exploring the implications of some of BK's ideas at the end of "Glossary of Analytic Idealism": Questions, with Answers (my interpretations as a student.) But I agree with Dana, if someone points at something and says, "Oh, that's the phantom layer, that's your unconscious Kantian Divide", it would just act as a conversation stopper. Nor do I see how anyone who believes in the reality of that could honestly engage.
You might want to look at /r/analyticidealism. Generally more in-line with the Kastrupian spirit.Eugene I wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:07 pm Since the forum is not longer associated with Bernardo and is hijacked by anthroposophists (be they official members of the organization or independent believers), I have no further interest in participating in it and contributing to the spread of sectarian beliefs. I wish you all the best and to stay healthy, both physically and spiritually!
Hey PP ... How's the Reddit forum going? Lots of activity I hope. Did you find some moderators to help out? Do you see much in the way of critiques of BK's model, from other counter-materialist proponents, or is that screened out? I'd check it out, but my online forum activity is now pretty much limited to this one, as being the mod, I have enough commentary to follow as it is, so not inclined to add to the amount of time I spend in front of the electron screen.pandaproducts wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:49 pm You might want to look at /r/analyticidealism. Generally more in-line with the Kastrupian spirit.
One thing about having a single dedicated forum/topic to BK or analytical idealism would be that it might satisfy somebody like Eugene who is only looking for that. Comments or topics not strictly related to BK or something he said or wrote would be off limits. One or two pinned posts might also be a useful reference for people coming with basic questions. The other forums could ramble on about all sorts of other stuff.Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:43 pmYup, and likely may have to wait for a succession process. Any volunteers? (Notwithstanding the process portrayed in the HBO series )