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Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:46 pm
by Martin_
Do I get a cookie if I can guess what you mean?
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm
by findingblanks
Cleric, so when your immediate response to my question was:
"You've once again taken a sentence in isolation and try asking questions about it in a way which the whole quote especially warns against..."
You did NOT think you had understood my question?? That confuses me. It seems you at least thought you had a reasonable take on what I was supposedly doing 'again.' Genuinely confused.
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:00 pm
by Cleric K
findingblanks wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm
Cleric, so when your immediate response to my question was:
"You've once again taken a sentence in isolation and try asking questions about it in a way which the whole quote especially warns against..."
You did NOT think you had understood my question?? That confuses me. It seems you at least thought you had a reasonable take on what I was supposedly doing 'again.' Genuinely confused.
The confusion will become clear to you. But let's simply continue our dialog as if my first post hasn't been written. Let's suppose I started directly with my atheistic description. How would that dialog proceed?
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:08 pm
by AshvinP
findingblanks wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:27 pm
You don't know what 'psychoanalysis' means. Or you are using it colloquially and then, yes, you constantly are psychoanalyzing. Either way, I stand by my request and my claim that he of course can justify ignoring it. That's how the world works. It can be nice and fun and frustrating, especially if you know the right way that people need to respond to you. Soul recently used the word 'goad' in this group. He talked about his own goading of somebody. I asked my co-workers if they think there is a wide range of interpreting what 'goading' would be. They all said yes. I agree. I love that word. And I really appreciate a good goading, in both directions. It feels very different than shadow projections. But we probably all agree that there can be a fuzzy boundary when the one merges into the other. That's gotta be okay. I know, I know...some will claim they know exactly when one is happening and the other isn't. And, yes, I admit that I think that kind of certainty is an expression of their sweet ol' shadow. And mine. Thanks.
It doesn't matter what you call it, the meaning of what you are doing is clear to everyone but you. There should not be 2 pages of comments without you revealing your secretly intended point in the OP. That only comes from someone posting for their own amusement and not to reach a genuine understanding with others. But let's see how psycho-cryptically you can avoid Cleric's last question...
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:49 am
by findingblanks
Although, Martin, there is something to be said for concision!
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:50 am
by findingblanks
"That only comes from someone posting for their own amusement..."
Thanks Ashvin! If you can find another spot for us to chat your style, link me to it and it can be like our old romping grounds.
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:58 am
by findingblanks
Cleric said,
"Let's suppose I started directly with my atheistic description. How would that dialog proceed?"
Okay, it sounds like your atheist either accepts Anthroposophy ("When the Anthro(Man)Sophia(Wisdom) is embraced...") or they are saying something like, "So the experience that an Anthroposophist refers to as embracing the Anthro(Man)Sophia(Winsdom)..."
Before I waste our time I should make sure you meant the latter.
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:59 am
by findingblanks
Hey Martin. I don't see a quote associated with your funny comment about cookies so I don't know if it was addressed to me or not.
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:09 am
by AshvinP
findingblanks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:50 am
"That only comes from someone posting for their own amusement..."
Thanks Ashvin! If you can find another spot for us to chat your style, link me to it and it can be like our old romping grounds.
Actually I will just apologize. Because it just occurred to me - and this is something I struggle to remember - that you may not feel "posting for amusement" is a negative thing. I am thinking it probably sounds like a silly criticism to quite a few people here. So I shouldn't be so quick to attach moral judgments on these things. Many of us are simply playing out the logical progression of our initial assumptions.
But, no, I seriously don't want our old romping grounds to manifest here or anywhere else, so I will bow out of this thread for now and just observe.
Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:54 am
by Cleric K
findingblanks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:58 am
Cleric said,
"Let's suppose I started directly with my atheistic description. How would that dialog proceed?"
Okay, it sounds like your atheist either accepts Anthroposophy ("When the Anthro(Man)Sophia(Wisdom) is embraced...") or they are saying something like, "So the experience that an Anthroposophist refers to as embracing the Anthro(Man)Sophia(Winsdom)..."
Before I waste our time I should make sure you meant the latter.
Yes, it's the latter. My atheist doesn't like the idea of spooky 'beings'. He seeks scientific alternative for the words. Something with energy, vibrations, information.