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Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:13 am
by Soul_of_Shu
Can this inquiry even be answered absent at least one idea construction—i.e. the idea of some agent that can ask/answer? Supposing some state absent even that, absent any and all idea construction, can an Origin for idea construction be found other than ever-now? If so, how so? Has it a cause? Eternal? Damn, yet another idea! SomeOne seems snookered.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:25 pm
by Jim Cross
Don't be so dualistic.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:22 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:25 pm Don't be so dualistic.
How so, if there is only immanent, never not originating, ever-evolving idea construction, with no state prior to that?

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
by Jim Cross
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:22 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:25 pm Don't be so dualistic.
How so, if there is only immanent, never not originating, ever-evolving idea construction, with no state prior to that?
Because you say it is an idea. It's not that. Neti neti.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:04 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:22 pm Neti neti.
How is that not an idea?

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:20 pm
by Jim Cross
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:04 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:22 pm Neti neti.
How is that not an idea?
Not that.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:29 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:20 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:04 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
How is that not an idea?
Not that.
That's just the idea of 'not that' not being an idea.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:34 pm
by Jim Cross
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:29 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:20 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:04 pm

Not that.
That's just the idea of 'not that' not being an idea.
No, not that either.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:42 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:34 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:29 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:20 pm
That's just the idea of 'not that' not being an idea.
No, not that either.
And on and on that idea can go, guaranteed to be followed by another.

Re: Absent any and all idea construction what remains?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:12 pm
by Jim Cross
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Cross wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:34 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:29 pm

No, not that either.
And on and on that idea can go, guaranteed to be followed by another.
Just stop. It's not so hard.