Re: Cleric's time consciousness
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:32 am
Cardenio wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:12 pmThank you, Lorenzo. Prima facie, it seems like an eccentric notion to have "scheduled a meeting with yourself" from the future. But then again, it is merely an extension of a phenomenon that is already present in ordinary experience. After all, at the moment that we perform any action that is oriented towards a given end, the latter does not yet exist at the time at which the initiative must be called forth in order to perform it. Hence we are always demonstrating a future time preference. In other words, it is clear that our future self—either by direct or by representational agency—is continually present to us in all of our decisions. The notion of "delayed gratification," which is essential to bring any kind of order into the soul life/astral body, is already operating on the same premise as something like the above exercise. To me, the distinction seems one of degree or magnitude, but not of kind. Does this seem right?lorenzop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:22 pm I don't know if this applies to this thread, but I was watching a video of a woman who claims to have studied Anthroposophy and Steiner, speaking of an exercise she does where she schedules a meeting with herself in the future, beginning with something simple such as, I will touch my ear lobe tomorow at 4PM. [[ In the long lapse of time, in your future, you may have scheduled a meeting with yourself today so pay attention. ]]
The interviewer was Rick Archer in his Buddha At The Gas Pump series, and he does a decent job of asking questions and being non-judgemental. I was was smitten by the 'spiritual endeavor' presented. BATGP link
Well stated, Cardenio. It is really a transcendent experience for me when the shackles of "linear time" are cast off, however briefly, to understand temporal phenomena. It is another one of those things which are easy for idealists or spiritualists to deny existence, but still allow it to pratically influence every fundamental concept they attribute to reality. If we simply allow what we know intellectually to become more concrete and lived experience, we will perceive daily the sorts of things you do above. All of these details of daily life we felt were "random", "trivial", etc. will suddenly find a new life in our constellation of holistic knowledge, enriching its meaning. That is the image of 'time travel' in its concrete spiritual sense. You are definitely correct to tie it in with sacrifice (delayed gratification), which was really the discovery of 'the future' by our ancient spiritual ancestors.