I can also mention that there's another root of the word, which is slava (слава) which translates to 'glory' and also slovo (слово), translating to 'word'. As a matter of fact the slavic word for 'slave' is rob/rab (роб/раб) so most certainly the association between 'slave' and 'slav' came much much later and not because of the slavic language itself.Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:02 pmGreat quote ... благодарю васEugene I. wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:54 pmславянский is the only term I'm aware of, or another grammatic form of it is славянeSoul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:13 pm Now wondering what the russian term for 'slavic' folks is, what they call themselves, as opposed to a name imposed upon them. Google translate comes up with славянский, which when pronounced comes out as slavyanskiy, so seemingly still the same derivation. But perhaps Eugene knows another more colloquial term?
It's not a coincidence that "slavic" and "slave" has the same root, slavery is in our genes and culture, as Anton Chekhov said “Write about this man who, drop by drop, squeezes the slave's blood out of himself until he wakes one day to find the blood of a real human being--not a slave's--coursing through his veins.”![]()
Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism
Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism
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Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism
Intriguing to say the least ... Благодаря тиCleric K wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:48 pmI can also mention that there's another root of the word, which is slava (слава) which translates to 'glory' and also slovo (слово), translating to 'word'. As a matter of fact the slavic word for 'slave' is rob/rab (роб/раб) so most certainly the association between 'slave' and 'slav' came much much later and not because of the slavic language itself.Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:02 pmGreat quote ... благодарю васEugene I. wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:54 pm
славянский is the only term I'm aware of, or another grammatic form of it is славянe
It's not a coincidence that "slavic" and "slave" has the same root, slavery is in our genes and culture, as Anton Chekhov said “Write about this man who, drop by drop, squeezes the slave's blood out of himself until he wakes one day to find the blood of a real human being--not a slave's--coursing through his veins.”![]()
Here out of instinct or grace we seek
soulmates in these galleries of hieroglyph and glass,
where mutual longings and sufferings of love
are laid bare in transfigured exhibition of our hearts,
we who crave deep secrets and mysteries,
as elusive as the avatars of our dreams.
soulmates in these galleries of hieroglyph and glass,
where mutual longings and sufferings of love
are laid bare in transfigured exhibition of our hearts,
we who crave deep secrets and mysteries,
as elusive as the avatars of our dreams.
Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism
For those interested in the philosophical and ideological foundations of Putin's political views and plans developed by Russian philosopher Dugin, here are good discussions on it showing why the world should be concerned:
Mikhail Epstein "Where is the center of hell?"
Political Theology: Aleksandr Dugin and the Fourth Political Theory
Mikhail Epstein "Where is the center of hell?"
Political Theology: Aleksandr Dugin and the Fourth Political Theory
Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism
Not just ideological but spiritual. As usual, the most dangerous and evil are those who profess to have God on their side.Eugene I. wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 4:25 pm For those interested in the philosophical and ideological foundations of Putin's political views and plans developed by Russian philosopher Dugin, here are good discussions on it showing why the world should be concerned:
Mikhail Epstein "Where is the center of hell?"
Political Theology: Aleksandr Dugin and the Fourth Political Theory