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Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:48 pm
by Cleric K
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Eugene I. wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:54 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:13 pm Now wondering what the russian term for 'slavic' folks is, what they call themselves, as opposed to a name imposed upon them. Google translate comes up with славянский, which when pronounced comes out as slavyanskiy, so seemingly still the same derivation. But perhaps Eugene knows another more colloquial term?
славянский is the only term I'm aware of, or another grammatic form of it is славянe
It's not a coincidence that "slavic" and "slave" has the same root, slavery is in our genes and culture, as Anton Chekhov said “Write about this man who, drop by drop, squeezes the slave's blood out of himself until he wakes one day to find the blood of a real human being--not a slave's--coursing through his veins.”
Great quote ... благодарю вас ;)
I can also mention that there's another root of the word, which is slava (слава) which translates to 'glory' and also slovo (слово), translating to 'word'. As a matter of fact the slavic word for 'slave' is rob/rab (роб/раб) so most certainly the association between 'slave' and 'slav' came much much later and not because of the slavic language itself.

Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:57 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
Cleric K wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:48 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Eugene I. wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:54 pm
славянский is the only term I'm aware of, or another grammatic form of it is славянe
It's not a coincidence that "slavic" and "slave" has the same root, slavery is in our genes and culture, as Anton Chekhov said “Write about this man who, drop by drop, squeezes the slave's blood out of himself until he wakes one day to find the blood of a real human being--not a slave's--coursing through his veins.”
Great quote ... благодарю вас ;)
I can also mention that there's another root of the word, which is slava (слава) which translates to 'glory' and also slovo (слово), translating to 'word'. As a matter of fact the slavic word for 'slave' is rob/rab (роб/раб) so most certainly the association between 'slave' and 'slav' came much much later and not because of the slavic language itself.
Intriguing to say the least ... Благодаря ти

Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:25 pm
by Eugene I.
For those interested in the philosophical and ideological foundations of Putin's political views and plans developed by Russian philosopher Dugin, here are good discussions on it showing why the world should be concerned:
Mikhail Epstein "Where is the center of hell?"
Political Theology: Aleksandr Dugin and the Fourth Political Theory

Re: Evil abstraction: the psychology of totalitarianism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:21 pm
by Jim Cross
Eugene I. wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 4:25 pm For those interested in the philosophical and ideological foundations of Putin's political views and plans developed by Russian philosopher Dugin, here are good discussions on it showing why the world should be concerned:
Mikhail Epstein "Where is the center of hell?"
Political Theology: Aleksandr Dugin and the Fourth Political Theory
Not just ideological but spiritual. As usual, the most dangerous and evil are those who profess to have God on their side.