Stranger wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:50 pm
But speaking about the post that you pointed to, I enjoyed the reding, it's a very good metaphorical description of the interconnectedness of all states in the totality of the universe of Consciousness, including retro-causal beyond-time interferences between states which naturally aligns with the idea of the self-causality of the reality of Consciousness as a whole.
Thanks for the feedback, Eugene.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no need for apology. The heated debates were and continue to be a treasure for me because they were practical exercises that kept me searching again and again for new angles of rendition of deeper intuitions. But it turned out these renditions had much greater importance than I could have anticipated. For example, thanks to a few things that I have read about twenty years ago, my thinking could break from the plane of abstractions and experience itself along the depth/vertical axis of the Time hierarchy. This experience remains with me to this day but only gradually I understood that the
general intuition has to be worked upon and traced into the full spectrum of reality. I can put that in a musical metaphor. Very early in our life we may discover the general intuition of musical beauty. But we know how limiting it would be if we say "this general intuition is enough for me, casting it down into imperfect sensory musical forms can never capture the total essence of this intuition so it's better to refrain from that." What is missed in this way is that this general intuition, no matter how magnificent it is, is still only a blurry shadow of a whole World. When this World becomes a source of inspiration for us, a living force on the waves of which our spirit vibrates, this mysterious world is projected in sensory forms. Of course, these forms can never capture the infinite nature of that world but nevertheless they begin to probe its potential. In this way our general intuition begins to attain high resolution cognitive texture. The musical forms reveal the lawfulness of rhythm, melody and harmony. At this point we already know how blind we would be if we chose to remain with the vague general feeling of Divine musicality, which however never finds its reflection in the full spectrum of phenomena.
The same thing can be said for our existence as a whole. The exercises that this forum provided to me were not simply endless variations of words that express the same general idea that I knew anyway. Instead, every exercise opens completely new doors, new channels are plumbed, living water begins to flow where previously there was none. Yes, the general intuition from 20 years ago is still here but has now grown into a living spiritual reality. This happens not by some magic trick but by the gradual attunement of perception and cognition such that every phenomena from our field of consciousness becomes meaningful in the light of that intuition, and which in turn becomes a whole detailed ideal world reflected in everything.
"And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven; and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it." This ladder is within each one of us. It is this vertical axis of being, the Hoberman sphere breathing. If we have a religious disposition, the ladder is first only a concept that we feel refers to something we believe is real. Then it grows into a grand image in the soul, then we find it as the depth reality of our spiritual being extending into the Cosmos. In a certain sense we can then say "I knew this, I felt it even when it was a mere concept in my mind, yet it could grow into full blown reality only in the course of time, after many transformations of my being." For this reason I'm tremendously grateful to everyone on this forum because even if it may sound as if I'm simply lecturing some prefabricated concepts, in fact every post has been for me a quest into new domains, new corridors and chambers of the living being of the Cosmos.
Stranger wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:37 pm
I agree with that and that's why I'm trying now to abstain from philosophical discourse and I see how hard and almost impossible it is to adequately translate the intuitions and experiences of spiritual realities into the language of conceptual human mind rooted in dualistic perception and egoic bubble. It requires a development of new ways of conveying those truths, but I confess that I'm personally just not up to this challenge and not able to do it adequately. I clearly see that all the language and conceptual palette that I have accumulated over my lifetime based on my previous background in natural sciences and philosophy are totally inadequate for conveying the truths of higher spiritual reality, and any attempts would lead only to confusion, as you rightly pointed in your criticism of my 1-4 "resolutions". This is not to say that this task is impossible, and I can see that Cleric is able to do that quite successfully, but for me that's an impossible endeavor, and so this is why I now would prefer to stay away from such debates.
Here we can remember:
"And he said: The things which are impossible with men are possible with God". There's a being deep in our heart world that is million degrees hot. As its fiery spiritual activity descends from the realm of Light, it cools down, takes the form of thoughts, speech, actions and is impressed into the panorama of the world. It is true – this 'cooling system', which has been formed in our present incarnation partly from the forces we have developed from before, partly from everything that we have accumulated and managed to organize in the current – could be quite inadequate for capturing the verticality of this flow. But this doesn’t mean that we need to throw away our concepts. Actually the concepts can all be of use. Even without knowing it, all our sciences have created a rich vocabulary that we can use to imaginatively express the subtle dynamics of our spiritual dimension. We only need to learn to propel them from a different perspective. And this is only partly a technical task. Even more important is our unity with the being that emanates from the fiery depths of the heart world. A world of pure Light of Wisdom and Warmth of Love. Not only our physical body is relatively permanent but our soul being is also often quite rigid. Like cast metal, with our intellect we can scrape some iron filings from here and there, polish some rough edges but if we think of something more, we feel it is impossible. And it is indeed impossible for our constrained spiritual activity, which is forced to flow within the channels of this organism. But what
is possible for us, is to open like a child, in humility and prayer-like wonder, to the Cosmic being that emanates from our heart world, by virtue of which our ego exists, as a more cooled down and solidified form of the Divine Spirit. The Divine essence is graspable by the ego as intuition in the mind. But just as before, this essence becomes a reality not when it remains as a general intuition but only when it becomes a spring of everlasting life, living inspiration on the wings of which every gesture of our human “I” lives and which we see reflected in the full spectrum of phenomena. When the portal of our heart opens and we let the Divine Love flow through us, its million degrees of warmth softens our rigid cooling installation, makes it pliable and we can begin reshaping it in sacred resonance with archetypal Cosmic forces. These words are not simply poetic expressions of some spiritual drunkenness. Like Jacob's ladder - we first hear them as concepts, then they stimulate our imagination and become mighty pictures in the soul, then become expressions of literal reality. Then the words are seen as scientifically precise descriptions of full blown Divine reality, within which all of us flow all the time but with varying degrees of perception and cognition.
