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Other modern idealists?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:34 pm
by Lauriso
Greetings!

I find idealism both persuasive and hard to accept. On one hand the intuitions ring true, on the other they have to face the deep conditioning of thinking of the world in material terms. But my purpose behind this post was to ask you for other modern idealists apart from Bernardo.

I apologize if this question has been asked a zillion times, but I couldn't find any threads via the search function.

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:52 pm
by AshvinP
Lauriso wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:34 pm Greetings!

I find idealism both persuasive and hard to accept. On one hand the intuitions ring true, on the other they have to face the deep conditioning of thinking of the world in material terms. But my purpose behind this post was to ask you for other modern idealists apart from Bernardo.

I apologize if this question has been asked a zillion times, but I couldn't find any threads via the search function.

Hello Lauriso,

Do you mean idealists who are currently alive and writing? And if so, do you mean idealists who are within analytical philosophical tradition, or, more broadly, people who conceive-experience reality as Idea and write about the implications of such a conception-experience as they understand them.

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:05 pm
by Lauriso
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:52 pm
Lauriso wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:34 pm Greetings!

I find idealism both persuasive and hard to accept. On one hand the intuitions ring true, on the other they have to face the deep conditioning of thinking of the world in material terms. But my purpose behind this post was to ask you for other modern idealists apart from Bernardo.

I apologize if this question has been asked a zillion times, but I couldn't find any threads via the search function.

Hello Lauriso,

Do you mean idealists who are currently alive and writing? And if so, do you mean idealists who are within analytical philosophical tradition, or, more broadly, people who conceive-experience reality as Idea and write about the implications of such a conception-experience as they understand them.
Yes, preferably living authors. And no, not necessarily within the analytical philosophical tradition. Anyone who could offer me a new perspective on the ontological conundrum :).

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm
by AshvinP
Lauriso wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:05 pm
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:52 pm
Lauriso wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:34 pm Greetings!

I find idealism both persuasive and hard to accept. On one hand the intuitions ring true, on the other they have to face the deep conditioning of thinking of the world in material terms. But my purpose behind this post was to ask you for other modern idealists apart from Bernardo.

I apologize if this question has been asked a zillion times, but I couldn't find any threads via the search function.

Hello Lauriso,

Do you mean idealists who are currently alive and writing? And if so, do you mean idealists who are within analytical philosophical tradition, or, more broadly, people who conceive-experience reality as Idea and write about the implications of such a conception-experience as they understand them.
Yes, preferably living authors. And no, not necessarily within the analytical philosophical tradition. Anyone who could offer me a new perspective on the ontological conundrum :).

In that case, I will refer to you an author who is alive and writing here on this forum. I can guarantee you 3 things - 1) it addresses the 'ontological conundrum' (by which I take it to mean, why is there a seeming world of independent matter/energy, or concrete 'stuff', if all is Idea-Consciousness), 2) it will offer a perspective you haven't encountered before, 3) there are people who can continue to discuss it with you here, including the author himself, which of course is not possible with most other writings.

The only thing is, many of us are used to trying to answer the 'why' or 'how' questions through a series of abstract conceptual models which always leave us puzzled and dissatisfied, yet we continue to pursue the same strategy nevertheless. We rarely if ever think to answer the questions through a phenomenology of cognitive experience. So we should go into the essay with the understanding we are pursuing a phenomenology which always remains connected with first-person experience as it transforms through states of being. There are no abstract assumptions about the 'essence' of things postulated from the outset.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/phenomenology/
Phenomenology is the study of structures of consciousness as experienced from the first-person point of view. The central structure of an experience is its intentionality, its being directed toward something, as it is an experience of or about some object. An experience is directed toward an object by virtue of its content or meaning (which represents the object) together with appropriate enabling conditions.

Phenomenology as a discipline is distinct from but related to other key disciplines in philosophy, such as ontology, epistemology, logic, and ethics. Phenomenology has been practiced in various guises for centuries, but it came into its own in the early 20th century in the works of Husserl, Heidegger, Sartre, Merleau-Ponty and others. Phenomenological issues of intentionality, consciousness, qualia, and first-person perspective have been prominent in recent philosophy of mind.

Essay: The Time-Consciousness Spectrum

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm
by Lauriso
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm In that case, I will refer to you an author who is alive and writing here on this forum.
Thank you! Just sent the essay to my Kindle. In the meantime, I stumbled upon this thread "Which contemporary philosophers are idealists?" https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/qu ... -idealists

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:43 pm
by Federica
Hi Lauriso,
I was wondering whether you have taken any further steps to explore your initial question?

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:36 am
by Stranger
David J. Chalmers, "Idealism and the Mind-Body Problem" (he is not technically idealist, but open to idealism)
Miri Albahari
Itay Shani
Jack Pransky
Thomas M. Kelley
Max Velmans
Yujin Nagasawa
Khai Wager

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:12 am
by AshvinP
Lauriso wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm In that case, I will refer to you an author who is alive and writing here on this forum.
Thank you! Just sent the essay to my Kindle. In the meantime, I stumbled upon this thread "Which contemporary philosophers are idealists?" https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/qu ... -idealists

I also have a follow up question for you or anyone else who knows - how exactly do we send content from the forum onto our Kindle??

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:54 am
by Stranger
AshvinP wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:12 am I also have a follow up question for you or anyone else who knows - how exactly do we send content from the forum onto our Kindle??
I usually copy a text into Word or Wordpad file and then send the file to my Kindle email.
There are other ways too

Re: Other modern idealists?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:32 am
by Lauriso
AshvinP,
I read the essay and I guess kind of agreed to most of it, but didn't find it particularly relevant...

Stranger,
Thanks a lot for the list! And I personally use the official Chrome plugin, you can preview before sending, or send only selected text, pretty handy.