OK, good, we are now looking at the practical side of it. My first comment is that I'm not treating the living thinking path as an add-on, a nice-to-have, or a complement to current 'toolbox', but treating it as an essential, indispensable and inseparable part of the integral path. My second one is, as I said to Cleric, that the nondual realization is a great catalyzer for the living thinking path because it works in consort with the living thinking practice to sacrifice the incoherent activity of the mind and to fully align the spiritual activity with the Oneness and creative potential of Being-Awareness-Thinking. And the third one is that, as a matter of experiential fact, all these aspects of Consciousness - its Beingness, Awareness, and Thinking, are inseparable by nature. Therefore, we can only align our individuated spiritual activity with Reality if we experientially embrace all of these aspects simultaneously (as a living experience). If we only focus on one aspect and neglect/dismiss the others, we are still in a state of incoherence with the fulness and unity of Reality.Federica wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:23 pm Eugene,
I will try my best to find a different way to put it, compared to my previous posts in this thread. This might come slower than instantly, as I don't yet know how to go about it, plus I have some work left to do today, but one thing I want to highlight already now, because I think it could be a major hindrance to a fruitful discussion, is this. You are touched by the truth of the one reality, and so are those who are on a path of living thinking. Regardless of how the realization is formed, it is shared, as such. What is not shared is how to deal with the question of our human relation to Oneness, what Oneness means for us, individually and collectively.
The hindrance is the following. You speak of an integral approach, in which you aim to combine the non-dual and the living thinking paths. This is a problematic approach. The living thinking path is not a cognitive add-on, just as the non-dual approach isn't. You must enable yourself to loosen the tight grip on the non-dual way of reasoning, provisionally. A clean slate is necessary, for the sake of true understanding, which is clear if we remember that we are not wrapping our heads around something, we aim to enter the nucleus of Being instead, and can't do it while we keep holding on something else at the same time. If you are not ready to give yourself the complete freedom to start afresh, for the sake of the experiment, your nondual understanding will act as a hidden repellent. It will derail anything that doesn't follow the same clog sequence, or maybe transcends the clog stage altogether. If you don't want to, OK but then the question is, what motivates you to the exploration and effort you are doing now? Because one thing is sure, treating the living thinking path as an add-on, a nice-to-have, or a complement to current 'toolbox', is never, ever, ever going to work in any way.
Smorgasbord approaches would equal psychosis here, and are destined to fail 100%, because living thinking is not a thing, a practice, a framework, a methodology, or a worldview. It's us. Either we are it and know it, or we don't come to know it, hence we are not it, and are set to abandon ourselves to unknown flows of eternal cosmic soup.
The integration of nondual and living thinking is not an artificial construct of combining the views and practices of these two paths in a mish-mush, but an inseparable and harmonious fusion of them. Just like there is no contradiction between the Being, Awareness and Thinking aspects of Reality, but a harmonious unity of them, likewise, the practical path to realization of this harmony is a harmonious path of nondual-living-thinking where nondual and living-thinking can no longer be separated or taken separately (like you cannot do nondual practice on even days and living-thinking one on odd days).