Güney27 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:04 pm
Thanks for your help ashvin.
I can get my finances under control again. I have some savings and I also quit my apartment because I will probably lose my job next month. But that's actually not so bad for me. My savings will last me for about 1 year and I live modestly.
I don't understand the Bible at all. From my current perspective, I read the Bible like a poem, but the esoteric content remains completely hidden from me. I don't find Rudolf Steiner's texts enriching either. In general, I find that Rudolf Steiner writes very unsystematically and inaccessibly. I think scaligero and a few others are better. Is there a prayer I can say for the dead? I know the Lord's Prayer by heart and pray it several times a day, but as I said, after months, it hasn't had any consciously noticeable effect on me. Why is Jesus always associated with light? I think there shouldn't be any light in the spiritual world. How should one perceive this without sense organs and nervous system? Does this mean an esoteric aspect of light?
Eugene has often spoken about NDE's in whichever light plays a role
Guney,
That's good about the savings. I hope they didn't charge a two month termination fee for the apartment lease, and you are able to get the deposit back!
I will wait to see what Cleric responds on this topic of prayers for the dead. Probably I won't have much useful thoughts to add. Although I have some understanding of the gradient which needs to be built between the living and the dead (like the physical and spiritual consciousness in general), I have not personally made much effort in this direction.
On Light - it is truly the outer manifestation of Thinking. It's interesting that we don't actually perceive the Light itself, only its reflection in colors and illuminated objects. Likewise we don't perceive our present thinking, only its reflection in thoughts and perceptions. He says, "
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life." What are words except the products of our thinking? Christ is not only the Light, though, but also the Warmth of the Divine Will, of Love. He is the Sun-Spirit who radiates Light and Warmth in the darkness of the physical-sensory world, from within our souls.
So we should remember, we are
always living in the spiritual worlds with our thinking. The latter is the esoteric dimension of Light. Normally this true Light is dulled out by the light of our desire for sensory perceptions and sense-based concepts, but it is nevertheless present. Your inner life
is the spirit world. This is where the dead and the higher heirarchies are active. Of course the question naturally arises, then why don't they just make sure my inner life is always in order and harmonious like the orbit of the planets? That's precisely the question we need to answer for ourselves through spiritual maturation. We can speak of suffering as necessary for moral agency, freedom, becoming spiritually creative beings, etc., but these remain abstract placeholders until we can grow into them with our inner understanding.
I know that seems like a major obstacle for you now, like nothing is coming of your efforts, but let's remember, you are 19 and just recently starting on a spiritual path. Probably most of us here didn't have a clue about any of these things at your age, and took much longer to progress as well. I certainly didn't know the Lord's Prayer by heart or pray daily, let alone read someone like Scaligero. Now I can only reminisce that it would have been a fantastic opportunity for me to grow in Spirit (of course I try not to live in the past, either). What your Karma has brought you into contact with at such a young age is a great gift from the Divine world, even though it doesn't seem like that at all right now. Remember two days ago, though, you wrote:
Federica
Thank you for your valuable comment.
You summed it up really well and showed that our thoughts are more than words. Our word-thoughts are the skin of a shedding snake or the visible surface of the ocean. You have a talent for making things easy to understand. Thinking back to months of trying to understand Cleric's posts, I realize I couldn't understand them because I was trying to squeeze these things into a chain of mental representations. But somehow over time and asking (yes, I even wished in my prayers that I understand what is being said.)... This forum helped me to heal.
Things definitely change and will continue to change in our life circumstances and our soul development, that is always part and parcel of spiritual evolution, but what you felt before this latest tragedy was also real and it will return. The increase in understanding and your ability to express that understanding on this forum, which has clearly improved to any objective observer, is nothing other than the experience of spiritual growth, the fruits of the Spirit.