No, it is the other way around. SS covers both physical and spiritual realms, and therefore has to account for lawful structures of both domains. The laws discovered by physics or biology only remain abstract when they are taken alone and apart from the laws of the spiritual realm. But in SS they have to be integrated, explained and accounted for in harmony with the spiritual laws, and not simply discarded as "abstract". The Schrodinger equation describes the factual behavior of particles, as we observe them in the physical realm, with insane level of accuracy, they cannot be just disregarded as irrelevant and "abstract", even though they are definitely insufficient to describe the reality on the larger scale. That means that the laws of quantum mechanics are still valid and relevant in SS, they are just rooted in deeper structures extending to the spiritual domains and are derived from them. And that in turn means that if anyone claims clairvoyant abilities to know the lawful structures of both spiritual and physical domains in great details, then they have to be able to have knowledge of their lawful structures, including the knowledge of the physical laws governing the physical elemental or biological domains. That is why I asked Cleric about hundred times why the behavior of particles in the physical domain is governed exactly by Schoeninger equation and not by any other equation but never got any answer from him. Again, you cannot get away from this question by claiming that the Schoeninger equation is "abstract" because this equation exactly describes the known facts of the physical domain, and therefore it cannot be discarded as irrelevant and it has to be accounted for and explained in SS in some way. The same argument applies to any other laws known to the secular science (genetics, biochemistry etc) - they all have to be accounted for and explained in SS and not just be discarded as irrelevant or abstract.AshvinP wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:40 pm Of course Steiner did investigate the lawful functioning of the human organism - anatomy, chemistry, biology, physiology, etc - in ways most people are completely unaware of and don't suspect, even today, but you expect that research to conform with past and current theories of secular science, which are only aware of dead mineral processes in the human organism, ignoring those of life, soul, and spirit. We can't actually understand the lawful functioning of the human organism without factoring in the last three, which was done extensively by Steiner. You expect that 'clairvoyant abilities' simply extend the past theories with new intellectual factoids which would have anticipated the trajectory of secular research. That is not how it works. If you simply took time to work through the material on the fourfold convolutions presented by Cleric, Steiner, or other Christian esoteric streams, these confusions would not arise for you. Then you would understand that the latest 'laws' of secular science are simply the decohered image of life-soul-spirit laws of an aesthetic and moral nature, including those of the planetary Spheres and Karma, which have been explored for centuries and made scientific through streams such as Anthroposophy.
So, the bottom line is: if we are talking about just spiritual matters regarding spiritual or meditative practices, inner experiences or knowledge related to only spiritual realms, then we can ignore the laws of physical domain, and that how it was done in the spiritual and religious traditions of the past that were mainly concerned with people's spiritual development. But SS is claiming to be a science relevant to both spiritual and physical domains, and therefore it has to account for and be able to acquire the knowledge of the laws of both domains, or at least account for the currently known laws of the physical domain. But none of it exists in the Steiner's SS, which means that it apparently fails to deliver its claims and promises.