A Polar Comparison of the Buddha and the Christ

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Re: A Polar Comparison of the Buddha and the Christ

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AshvinP wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:16 am
Lou Gold wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:42 am
AshvinP wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:11 am


We often point out here that awakening in dreams and dreamless sleep can be realized by people now, as long as we sacrifice the expectation that it's something which will happen to us, someday or somewhere. It's not so much that the phrasing is incorrect - the spiritual powers do indeed approach us, rather than us forcing them to reveal by our will or thought - but that the expectant, entitled, dependent, and therefore passive inner disposition is not something which attracts them. The world of deep sleep is filled with spiritually luminous, warm, and creatively responsible beings - they want us to realize our full potential and join their ranks. In that sense, it is only we who stand in our own way to the deeper realizations. And the first realization is to become more conscious of how precisely we are standing in our own way. Lamenting about it in the abstract will do us no good and may only drive us deeper into passivity. Instead we should seek the understanding, love, and wisdom which allows us to actively discern and untangle the knots of our own being as they manifest in our daily lives, so that the Spirit finds more straight paths to inflow.

"The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
“Prepare the way of the Lord;
Make straight in the desert
A highway for our God.
Every valley shall be exalted
And every mountain and hill brought low;
The crooked places shall be made straight
And the rough places smooth;
The glory of the Lord shall be revealed,
And all flesh shall see it together;
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”






That's great you are able to remain at home. I would certainly make the same choice.
Oh, I agree about preparing for one's spiritual evolution and working to clear away one's own blockages. Who is it who you see as standing in her/his own way, lamenting in the abstract or being passive? Dreams are incredibly important, life-changing for me. Sometimes, all that's needed to trigger change is sincerely admitting that something is possible. Sometimes it requires more targeted work and cleaning/clearing. I see myself as a work in progress and hope everyone here holds a similar self-view. Along the way, I love to create poems and images and share stories -- to be a maker as well as a taker. I call it "having fun" but I don't mean to imply that there's no work involved.

Me! And I can only recognize it in others to the extent I recognize it in myself, in ever increasing measure. Every version of 'me' I thought to be concrete, active, courageous, accepting responsibility, without excuse, has been much less so than imagined, without fail. It's not only that I see myself as not having reached the ideal yet, but I discern more and more ways in which I am actively working against against the ideal. And at every such realization it is tempting to feel, 'ok now I have cleared out those demons and it's a matter of growing straight towards the Divine'. It's actually remarkable how many times we can fall for the same tricks that we play on ourselves.

Since you are a spiritual poet, you may appreciate, and perhaps even employ, this prayer that I just now came across while reading, and which seems to fit this conversation perfectly.

"Not more of light I ask, O God,

But eyes to see what is.

Not sweeter songs, but ears to hear

The present melodies.

Not more of strength, but how to use

The power that I possess.

Not more of love, but skill to turn

A frown to a caress.

Not more of joy, but how to feel

Its kindling presence near,

To give to others all I have

Of courage and of cheer.

No other gifts, dear God, I ask,

But only sense to see

How best those precious gifts to use

Thou hast bestowed on me.

Give me all fears to dominate,

All holy joys to know,

To be the friend I wish to be,

To speak the truth I know,

To love the pure, to seek the good,

To lift with all my might

All souls to dwell in harmony,

In freedom's perfect light."
Beloved Ashvin,

Your words bring a warm glow to my heart and gentle tears to my eyes.

I salute you.

Thank you for being my friend.

Much love to you,
lou
Be calm - Be clear - See the faults - See the suffering - Give your love
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THE TEACHING

Our Master Teacher showed
the wounds do not vanish

They close and scab over with hate
or
Stay open and flow with love

We were given a choice
May we choose and work well
Be calm - Be clear - See the faults - See the suffering - Give your love
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Lou Gold wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:47 am THE TEACHING

Our Master Teacher showed
the wounds do not vanish

They close and scab over with hate
or
Stay open and flow with love

We were given a choice
May we choose and work well
(revised after some dreamtime)

THE TEACHING

Our Master Teacher showed
the wounds do not vanish.

In time, they may
close and scab over with hate
or stay open flowing with love.

Given choice,
may we choose freely
and heal well.
Be calm - Be clear - See the faults - See the suffering - Give your love
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Lou Gold wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm
Lou Gold wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:47 am THE TEACHING

Our Master Teacher showed
the wounds do not vanish

They close and scab over with hate
or
Stay open and flow with love

We were given a choice
May we choose and work well
(revised after some dreamtime)

THE TEACHING

Our Master Teacher showed
the wounds do not vanish.

In time, they may
close and scab over with hate
or stay open flowing with love.

Given choice,
may we choose freely
and heal well.


and from a true poet...

PRAYING

It doesn't have to be
the blue iris, it could be
weeds in a vacant lot, or a few
small stones; just
pay attention, then patch

a few words together and don’t try
to make them elaborate, this isn’t
a contest but the doorway

into thanks, and a silence in which
another voice may speak.

"Praying" by Mary Oliver, from Thirst: Poems

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Photo: "A Puddle Contemplating the Universe" by Miriam Dyak 2022
Be calm - Be clear - See the faults - See the suffering - Give your love
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