Re: Understanding the Christ-being and His Significance for the Future of Humanity
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:45 am
andBut as Initiation involves the liberation of the REAL MAN from the body of sin and death that he may soar into the subtler spheres at will and return to the body at his pleasure
and finally the explanation as to whywakes this center from its age-long sleep to a throbbing, pulsating life sweeping onward
Needless to say, I am very interested in this thread. I hope my introductory post is not out of line as I find it can be difficult to broach the subject that the work has been completed, for close to two months now.(it has been accomplished), and soars into the subtler spheres to seek Jesus whose life he has imitated with such success and from whom he is thenceforth inseparable.
I am sadly not fully familiar with Steiner's work, though he recently came back on to my radar and was intended to be investigated at some point, I would say still is. So I am curious what this "fork" you mention might be as again this comment reminds me of recent experiences, specifically being acknowledge by two uap in a very symbolic way. My interpretation being, we "passed" or achieved a critical like mass towards the light.do you think humanity has passed the fork Steiner speaks of?
I very much agree, salvation comes from within and expresses itself without. The Great Work is an inside out process.Ultimately the wise and loving intents of the Cosmos will be fulfilled through us, even if we don't know exactly how.
We have always been part it of, collectively the tide has turned. It has already been said by so many people and they were right, we had already won. We are collectively ready to start taking the next step, which has always been available to us, on a much larger scale than ever before, imho.So perhaps the counter-swing is under way.
We all are going to fall short here, where do we set the goal posts? Should we be setting them at all? I can not help but think everything has its time and place and maybe it is time for those who embrace higher cognitive function development question whether or not they themselves are ready to take the next step. It is from this responsibility that infinite potential springs, one person at a time, choosing to stay and share what you know or go do what you have to go do. One choice leading to an exponential like effect on the greater consciousness field that is society such that, we take everyone with us.but still far short of embracing higher cognitive development.
It would stand to reason that all paths are same/different at the same time, considering everything is fundamentally the same thing Source/Spirit/God which expresses itself in the most paradoxical of ways. Millman's guru Socrates' business card read Humor*Paradox*Change and when Dan Ascended, the card read Happiness. For me, I see the path back to Unity through the Trinity and Soc's business card was a nod towards this while also describing what is possible once we do, such as manipulate time/matter/space. I would have to say, Way of the Peaceful Warrior and Sacred Journey of the Peaceful Warrior are wonderful works to consider.is that these two paths are the same.
Soloma369 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:24 amI am sadly not fully familiar with Steiner's work, though he recently came back on to my radar and was intended to be investigated at some point, I would say still is. So I am curious what this "fork" you mention might be as again this comment reminds me of recent experiences, specifically being acknowledge by two uap in a very symbolic way. My interpretation being, we "passed" or achieved a critical like mass towards the light.do you think humanity has passed the fork Steiner speaks of?
Ultimately the wise and loving intents of the Cosmos will be fulfilled through us, even if we don't know exactly how.
I very much agree, salvation comes from within and expresses itself without. The Great Work is an inside out process.
We have always been part it of, collectively the tide has turned. It has already been said by so many people and they were right, we had already won. We are collectively ready to start taking the next step, which has always been available to us, on a much larger scale than ever before, imho.So perhaps the counter-swing is under way.
Greetings AshvinP, my appreciation for your response and apologies for not having done the same in a timely manner. I had some rather significant experiences of the Spiritual kind that threw me a bit our of balance Materially in October of this year. I was due to return to work after having taken a five month hiatus from the non sense which allowed me to heal some nerve damage. These events took place just prior to work and lead me to share with my new employer that I was not going to be as invested as originally thought, which of course lead to the offer being rescinded. The Monday I was to begin which was the 23rd was rather significant for me, as if it played out exactly as it was supposed to.These are very important points. In a certain sense, the most significant fork was passed 2,000 or so years ago. That was the 'turning point in time', the incarnation of the Spirit in the human physical body that allows for the latter to be gradually spiritualized and the whole perceptual World as well. It is exactly the process of transfiguring the World from the inside-out, as you say. In that sense, you are right, we have already won. The wheels have been set in motion and we are all working out the relative stages of this Victory. We have indeed arrived at the time for the next major step on that path to be taken.
I might question whether or not an external "adversary" can not reach our intuitive thinking. In the year of 2009 I was afflicted with what I have come to understand as my truth to be a negative entity attachment that fed me thoughts that I could not decipher as not my own except for the fact that I was able to identify their polarity in opposition to who I am. This was during a seven week ordeal that involved many ufo/uap, they were in direct relation to this "dark night of the soul" that lasted entirely too long and was only solved via prayer. As it played out, I have my prayers being answered on video as I was participating in a contact experiment anonymously that was organized by the ATS forum. I had been heavily looking for answers externally which in itself is a trap, again I point out my ignorance and abundance of folly.For that, however, we need to be very clear on where the Spirit is currently working to spiritualize the World. The new fork we have arrived at is that between ignorance and clarity of where the Spirit is truly active. The adversarial forces that live within our prejudices, beliefs, habits, opinions, feelings of pride, animalistic passions, material attachments, etc. work to keep our core spirit in ignorance. There is only one place where these forces cannot reach and that is in our life of intuitive thinking. It is at the tip of this intuitive activity, which we normally experience as imagination and verbal thinking, where the Spirit is continually imploding its potential into manifest existence. It is the 'event horizon' at the threshold between the visible World and the invisible Spirit. This is the only place where we are truly free beings at our current stage of spiritual evolution.
Once again I might have to disagree a bit as I have been reflecting quite a bit on my inner voice that triggered the earlier experience of October of 2023. Just like my negative entity attachment, yet the opposing polarity. It was these intuitive thoughts that came to me that triggered my experience and I can not say that these were my own thoughts, I can not explain why I had them even though I was knee deep in a good conversation on Reddit about topics such as Earth Mitosis and what might really be going on. I can only come to resolve that the thoughts were of the Revelation variety, lead directly to a simple Enlightened thought in response which directly triggered a most unusual experience. The final conclusion was I was uplifted and am of the perspective that I am so very blessed for all of my experiences, the good and the bad.What manifests at this event horizon, unlike all other appearances that confront us in the World, is completely transparent to us. A simple way to understand this is to ask, what is the only perception in my experience that I don't have to reflect on to understand its meaning? We have to reflect on feelings, desires, the colors and sounds around us, etc. The only perception we don't reflect on is that of our inner voice - the words (concepts) we hear when we think. If we had to reflect on our inner voice, it would be an endless recursion. Every act of reflection would generate a new stream of inner voice that we hear, and then we would need to reflect on that inner voice which generates a new stream of words, ad infinitum. Instead, we are immediately united with the meaning of our inner voice perceptions and use them to reflect on everything else.
Intuitive thinking you might say has always been a way of life for me, I have been going right when everyone else in my life was going left. I was invited to a discord forum through Reddit which lead me here via one of its users, I was busy throwing up my experience and discussing my intentions moving forward when one of the users labeled me as a infj, not the first time that has been externally done mind you. I have always been very intuitive, have always known that it was pointless to chase the material "American Dream" because it was going to be changing, how could we continue on the same obviously failed path???A lot of discussions on this forum center around how to actively take a greater, ever-more expansive hold of our transparent intuitive activity at the tip of our becoming. I wonder how you feel about this path of intuitive thinking? Does it sound like something that makes sense to pursue so as to gradually realize the turning of the World inside-out?
Soloma369 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:23 amGreetings AshvinP, my appreciation for your response and apologies for not having done the same in a timely manner. I had some rather significant experiences of the Spiritual kind that threw me a bit our of balance Materially in October of this year. I was due to return to work after having taken a five month hiatus from the non sense which allowed me to heal some nerve damage. These events took place just prior to work and lead me to share with my new employer that I was not going to be as invested as originally thought, which of course lead to the offer being rescinded. The Monday I was to begin which was the 23rd was rather significant for me, as if it played out exactly as it was supposed to.These are very important points. In a certain sense, the most significant fork was passed 2,000 or so years ago. That was the 'turning point in time', the incarnation of the Spirit in the human physical body that allows for the latter to be gradually spiritualized and the whole perceptual World as well. It is exactly the process of transfiguring the World from the inside-out, as you say. In that sense, you are right, we have already won. The wheels have been set in motion and we are all working out the relative stages of this Victory. We have indeed arrived at the time for the next major step on that path to be taken.
This being said I imagine your are implying that the most significant fork was the life of Christ Jesus and I would of course tend to agree with you but question whether or not Spirit has always been incarnated in each and every one of us, Jesus just realized it to a degree that most others were not able to and he did his best with what he had to teach others how to realize it themselves. Now mind you, I am an ignorant fool, have never read the Bible and am into my first Steiner book so that I might be able to keep up here to some degree, Cosmic Memory with more to follow. When you said this incarnation allows for the physical human body to be gradually spiritualized and the perceptual world as well sounds very much like my experience in early October that lead to the further experience on the 23rd and why I find myself here.
Soloma wrote:I might question whether or not an external "adversary" can not reach our intuitive thinking. In the year of 2009 I was afflicted with what I have come to understand as my truth to be a negative entity attachment that fed me thoughts that I could not decipher as not my own except for the fact that I was able to identify their polarity in opposition to who I am. This was during a seven week ordeal that involved many ufo/uap, they were in direct relation to this "dark night of the soul" that lasted entirely too long and was only solved via prayer. As it played out, I have my prayers being answered on video as I was participating in a contact experiment anonymously that was organized by the ATS forum. I had been heavily looking for answers externally which in itself is a trap, again I point out my ignorance and abundance of folly.For that, however, we need to be very clear on where the Spirit is currently working to spiritualize the World. The new fork we have arrived at is that between ignorance and clarity of where the Spirit is truly active. The adversarial forces that live within our prejudices, beliefs, habits, opinions, feelings of pride, animalistic passions, material attachments, etc. work to keep our core spirit in ignorance. There is only one place where these forces cannot reach and that is in our life of intuitive thinking. It is at the tip of this intuitive activity, which we normally experience as imagination and verbal thinking, where the Spirit is continually imploding its potential into manifest existence. It is the 'event horizon' at the threshold between the visible World and the invisible Spirit. This is the only place where we are truly free beings at our current stage of spiritual evolution.
I like the visual you paint about Spirit imploding its potential into manifest existence, implosion/explosion of course being so crucial to any sort of manifestation. I tend to think/feel this is the fundamental mechanic of our reality and how it renders from the Spiritual to the Material. I also see implosion/explosion as polarities and when it comes to any degree of gnosis, we are currently lost in the detail of exploding knowledge. Through implosion of knowledge or getting back to understanding the fundamentals of reality can we be the truly free beings we are meant to be, so I very much appreciate your statement.
Once again I might have to disagree a bit as I have been reflecting quite a bit on my inner voice that triggered the earlier experience of October of 2023. Just like my negative entity attachment, yet the opposing polarity. It was these intuitive thoughts that came to me that triggered my experience and I can not say that these were my own thoughts, I can not explain why I had them even though I was knee deep in a good conversation on Reddit about topics such as Earth Mitosis and what might really be going on. I can only come to resolve that the thoughts were of the Revelation variety, lead directly to a simple Enlightened thought in response which directly triggered a most unusual experience. The final conclusion was I was uplifted and am of the perspective that I am so very blessed for all of my experiences, the good and the bad.What manifests at this event horizon, unlike all other appearances that confront us in the World, is completely transparent to us. A simple way to understand this is to ask, what is the only perception in my experience that I don't have to reflect on to understand its meaning? We have to reflect on feelings, desires, the colors and sounds around us, etc. The only perception we don't reflect on is that of our inner voice - the words (concepts) we hear when we think. If we had to reflect on our inner voice, it would be an endless recursion. Every act of reflection would generate a new stream of inner voice that we hear, and then we would need to reflect on that inner voice which generates a new stream of words, ad infinitum. Instead, we are immediately united with the meaning of our inner voice perceptions and use them to reflect on everything else.
Soloma wrote:Intuitive thinking you might say has always been a way of life for me, I have been going right when everyone else in my life was going left. I was invited to a discord forum through Reddit which lead me here via one of its users, I was busy throwing up my experience and discussing my intentions moving forward when one of the users labeled me as a infj, not the first time that has been externally done mind you. I have always been very intuitive, have always known that it was pointless to chase the material "American Dream" because it was going to be changing, how could we continue on the same obviously failed path???A lot of discussions on this forum center around how to actively take a greater, ever-more expansive hold of our transparent intuitive activity at the tip of our becoming. I wonder how you feel about this path of intuitive thinking? Does it sound like something that makes sense to pursue so as to gradually realize the turning of the World inside-out?
From my ufo experience as a little child, perceived abductions in retrospect and always wanting to be a part of the solution, of making a real difference in this world as a very young boy, I would say that this line of thinking/feeling is very resonating with me. In fact my experiences have lead me to jump in head first in the pursuit of helping others to experience the same as I have through the practices and disciplines I employed which is my truth as to why I was uplifted. The World sorely needs a shift from the Material to the Spiritual, we are as a whole are very out of balance, much like I find myself out of balance towards the Spiritual. I have taken it to such an extreme that they cut my internet off, only today resolving it through a loan from my old man while I venture back into the job market in search of balance so that I might continue what I started on Reddit in teaching others how I connected with God.
Soloma369 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 pm This reminds me of the frequency of the energy I tapped in to which was local/non-local in its nature when I finished the Unity Equation on the 23rd of October. It shook the house for ten or so days like a earthquake but was very rhythmic, I consider that bump to be the Christ Consciousness bump. With it came deeper understanding of the UE that I had been working on Reddit as well LOTS of energy. I had two symbolic UAP acknowledgements as well as two terrestrial craft acknowledgements that came in real close and personal for having completed the Great Work of the Age.
I have been pretty busy on my r/Liberment sub teaching what I have found, recently have been asked to write a chapter on the Unity Equation and the Tesla Ritual for a book on Unity Consciousness. The author just sent me her acknowledgement she wants to make on her cover of the the chapter I am to write, she wants to call it "The Magnificence of the 3 6 9: The Unity Equation". We just got off the phone after a two hour conversation as I wanted to make sure she understood it and it fit with her vision of her book which is on Unity Consciousness as it will be difficult for most to understand due to its multi-dimensional nature.
I am not sure how much time I have to commit to your folks forum, my focus has always been on simplifying understanding or knowledge and much of what you folks share here requires me to put too much time in to keep up with you. I very much appreciate your thorough reply and would like to reply in kind, I am just finding myself spread entirely too thin. I did reply to Cleric a bit in the meditation thread as obviously the practice and internal/external work is what it is all about if we are to realize our full potential
Thank you again for your warm welcome and do not be too surprised if I am not an active member as I already have my hands full.
I certainly resonate with this, when I have been recruiting folks to my sub, I have specifically been encouraging the curious/skeptic and student/teacher roles. Right now, I am not looking for another meditation method as I have a OBE blockage to work through. One of my new friends, who is a energy worker will be working with me in the next 90m. When I am able to resolve this blockage, I may be inclined to consider additional techniques. So bear with me friend, we are all still learning, myself include. I am of the perspective this will only ever stop when we fully resolve back to Unity or Source.Of course, this requires one to not identify solely as a 'teacher' or others but also as a student of others, or really a student of the archetypal Spirits who freely engage others as their vessels.
I picked up Steiner and Millman on my last trip to the library and I find myself reading Millman over Steiner. That might be because he is more on a "normal guy" level of writing and i have a past connection to his work. I am all about simplifying knowledge, which is why I am in to Trinities. After having read Cosmic Memory, I am of the perspective that Steiner is going to be expansive in his knowledge and wisdom for my liking. I tend to get lost in the detail, which does not help me come into under/overstanding.Anyway, if you get around to reading Steiner's works, I would be interested to hear how you relate to and understand them.
Soloma369 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:51 pmI certainly resonate with this, when I have been recruiting folks to my sub, I have specifically been encouraging the curious/skeptic and student/teacher roles. Right now, I am not looking for another meditation method as I have a OBE blockage to work through. One of my new friends, who is a energy worker will be working with me in the next 90m. When I am able to resolve this blockage, I may be inclined to consider additional techniques. So bear with me friend, we are all still learning, myself include. I am of the perspective this will only ever stop when we fully resolve back to Unity or Source.Of course, this requires one to not identify solely as a 'teacher' or others but also as a student of others, or really a student of the archetypal Spirits who freely engage others as their vessels.
I picked up Steiner and Millman on my last trip to the library and I find myself reading Millman over Steiner. That might be because he is more on a "normal guy" level of writing and i have a past connection to his work. I am all about simplifying knowledge, which is why I am in to Trinities. After having read Cosmic Memory, I am of the perspective that Steiner is going to be expansive in his knowledge and wisdom for my liking. I tend to get lost in the detail, which does not help me come into under/overstanding.Anyway, if you get around to reading Steiner's works, I would be interested to hear how you relate to and understand them.
Will see, I may work my way through it yet. As it turns out, I have been asked to write a chapter in a book about Unity Consciousness regarding the Unity Equation. I have started my own podcast as a method to answer questions and of course I am hoping to teach what I have come to under/overstand "how things work."
Thanks again for the fine conversation.
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