Re: Possible agenda of Bernardo's "daemon"
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:37 pm
Ok, so I'm reading the rest and are riffing off your original misunderstanding.
Yeah. I have a non religious background, and always felt antipathy for materialism. After years of putting these questions in stand by ("important at some point, but I don't have time right now") I seized the opportunity of the pandemic years, 2020-21 to enquire about them some more. After a fair amount of searching, I found in idealism the only reasonable way to understand reality. I soon learnt about BK. But the more I looked into the details of his philosophy, the more I became critical. Which brought me to this forum, one year ago. Here I have had the unheard-of chance to learn about Esoteric Christianity, also known as Anthroposophy, and reorient and expand on my understanding of the nature of reality. Reality is of course of thought nature. But not in the way BK sees it, that we are trapped in bubbles with no chance to really know that nature. That the depth structure of reality can be known through a thorough phenomenological inquisitive process has been philosophically and practically demonstrated by Steiner, and realized in their own existence, by many initiates before and after him. Today initiation is an open path everyone with a normal human organization can and should follow. It's a lifelong path along which we can only find orientation through the guiding light of Christ. I am only at the very beginning of this path, and I have only started to realize the crucial importance of the Christ events for the evolution of humanity. You may want to read here a concise summary of what is meant by Christian Esotericism in these conversations and see if you agree with it.
xzardozx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:32 pm "Ok, this I think is a great attitude, to aspire to control, or dominate, thoughts and feelings" - that's precisely the opposite of what I said. Not to "control" or "dominate" thoughts and feelings, but to establish "dominion" over them. That just means you're not bovvered (as the Brits say) by them, should they happen to flit through your mind, and can pay them no mind and they are not mastering you but vice versa. Everything in it's proper place. That's dominion.
That's the most awkward idea
But very different connotations. A King has dominion over his subjects. It's a fairly neutral word. He may be a good king or a bad king. If he exercises that dominion in a negative or abusive way, then he is seeking to dominate his subjects.Federica wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:03 pmHaving dominion over something and dominating it are two differenxzardozx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:32 pm "Ok, this I think is a great attitude, to aspire to control, or dominate, thoughts and feelings" - that's precisely the opposite of what I said. Not to "control" or "dominate" thoughts and feelings, but to establish "dominion" over them. That just means you're not bovvered (as the Brits say) by them, should they happen to flit through your mind, and can pay them no mind and they are not mastering you but vice versa. Everything in it's proper place. That's dominion.
I got it, xzardozx. Please note, dominion and dominate are the same word, they have the same root. It should be the same meaning. If you don't like "control" - fine.
xzardozx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:33 pm I'd be most curious to know what part of what I've written so far conflicts most strongly in your mind (anyone) with what Cleric wrote?
Also, if anyone knows, please explain what Ahriman and Lucifer represent in his cosmology? He said they are both "tugging" on us.