Federica wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:02 am
Ashvin, really… What I am saying is simple to see and relate to. I can and should accept the full spectrum of invitations pressing on us in earthly life, to responsibly probe reality in the face of the unknown (all the quotes from my posts you have thrown in). In a sense, it’s the very goal of earthly life, but how I do it has importance. I shouldn’t venture into a prescriptive attitude then, that is, consecrating, without knowing. I am willing to explore the unknown - exploration only means something when it has this character - but I'm not willing to prescribe things in the unknown. These attitudes go in opposite directions - easy to see, isn't it? It's like leaving the forest hut to explore the valley around on foot - which I say is necessary and try to practice - versus climbing the nearest pick and putting on a wingsuit to
explore it by overflight. Unless, since man is not a bird, this may end up that the parachute fails, and the valley is 'explored' by crashing into it. This doesn’t mean that I can’t listen to prescriptions from trusted sources (it’s puzzling how you don’t seem to record this point in particular, no matter how many times I highlight it).
Anyway, I am familiar by now with your language, your risk assessments of compromised spiritual development if I insist, the “
great tragedy” (your exact words!) it would be if I fail to “
contemplate” (your exact word!) the work of your friend (who subsequently happened to demonstrate in writing their fullstanding separateness from the PoF fundamentals, an example of what OMA speaks of in todays meditation), and now, that it would take a miracle for me to realize the truthfulness of your diagnoses (
). I know my own intentions, whether or not I have an impatient approach to development, etcetera, and the fact that you so grossly, and repetitively, misinterpret them gives me the
certainty that something is off in your approach, tough I don’t pretend to diagnose and admonish. I don’t know why you take this stance, however, one thing is sure: it doesn’t do justice to your capabilities.
Federica,
What I am saying is also simple, entirely aligned with the fundamentals of the intuitive thinking path. It isn't at all a deviation from what we have spoken of many times before. Cleric put it as follows at the outset of Part 2:
Because of the scientific habits of our age, when we think about gaining a more intimate experience of the World groove, probably the first thing that comes to mind is that we should somehow gain insight into the way particles and forces work. But in reality, as we saw in connection with our willing spiritual activity, this depth of the physical world is initially the furthest removed from where our intuition of the flow is at its clearest focus – the experience of our thinking. We know the physical world only as far as it impresses through sensory perceptions and we form corresponding mental images. What happens in our organs and cells, we don’t have direct consciousness of. Our intuition can only grow from where we find it to be already one and the same with the intuitive curvature of the World groove. If we jump directly to physics or metaphysics, we once again introduce the duality between the intuitive curvature within which our philosophical thoughts flow and the supposed ‘true’ curvature of the World groove, which, alas, once again remains ‘on the other side’. For this reason, gaining a deeper knowledge of the World groove starts from within outwards.
I have tried to say the same thing as follows:
That is another reason why the inner edge, where our intuitive insight and capacity for creative management is stronger, should take primary importance, so we know more intimately what inner impulses are steering our thinking in relation to the varied sensory events.
...We should never feel like bypassing the seed point of thinking as we gain consciousness of the deeper curvatures, but only expanding its resonant circumference. The alteration of constraints should come first in our thinking habits and proximate soul tendencies...
The spirit will let us know in no uncertain terms when we are overextending our "I" and becoming too prideful in its capacity to reach and alter the deeper curvatures. We just need to remain humbly open to its intuitive feedback.
We won't gain this intuitive sensitivity by a process of trial and error within the physical curvature that somehow works around concentrated cognition. It is exactly the disorganized soul curvature that precludes our spiritual insight into the deeper karmic streams of destiny, i.e. the Guardian of the Threshold.
I am sure you feel that nothing you have written so far is in tension with the above, but if your repeated phrasing in the comments is any reflection of your ideas in this respect, then there is a tension. For ex. in your last comment - "
I can and should accept the full spectrum of invitations pressing on us in earthly life, to responsibly probe reality in the face of the unknown."
I hope you at least see something of this tension. Cleric also provided the new illustration of karmic imbalances and compensation which work through our life destiny, ending with, "
So things are not easily graspable on a linear scale - thus the well-known "God moves in mysterious ways". As always, prayer is our guide here."
Imagine that we get to the end of life, the etheric body departs the physical and we behold the panoramic tableau of life events. We discern the whole
logical thread of our life plan, as viewed from the perspective of the higher self that intended a certain outcome at the pole of death. We see how the most varied accidents, illnesses, tragedies, and so forth fit into that holistic logic and configured themselves so as to approach that outcome. They served to build certain virtues and capacities that we were hardly aware of, that we had no reason to even suspect at the time. Then we zoom into a particular part of life where we wished to prematurely grasp at this holistic understanding of life destiny, to even meddle in it and alter its constraints. We behold ourselves saying something like, "
Please, the Gods, I wish to sneak my current spiritual activity through the windows within the interfering field of karmic possibilities so that, even though I have no intuitive insight into how this or that event fits into my life plan, I may proceed as if I have that insight and alter the constraints of destiny according to my conception of what is best."
Let's be clear, I am not at all concerned that you are going to have unnecessary surgeries to gain deeper insights, or do meditative hot tub rituals, or whatever, but I am pointing to the
manner of thinking that emerges from these considerations. It is the whole way we are intuitively orienting to the soul and spiritual curvatures that structure our life destiny together with our possibilities for greater inner degrees of freedom. That is where we should be open to feedback and open to the possibility we are not altogether immune from the 'scientific habits of our age'. These are exactly the habits we want to gain more intuitive insight into by working from within the thinking soul curvature outwards. These are exactly the constraints we can and should alter through that insight. Any other 'alteration work' that we imagine is accessible to us is almost guaranteed to be a convenient but unhelpful distraction.