AshvinP wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:53 pmLou Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:28 amPlease consider this unrehearsed spontaneous improvisation, which may be an emergent creative alternative to the dismal cacophony:AshvinP wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:37 am This is the very process by which the individual and the collective are reconciled in spiritual degrees of freedom, as the relative perspectives of the Spirit across all scales harmonize their self-similar rhythms of activity. The higher-order scales are already relatively harmonious - as we see in the symphonic functioning of the Cosmos and Nature - and are waiting for the human scale to freely attune its rhythms, instead of spreading its cacophony into the whole organic system.
This is impressive, Lou, and a great example of the human spirit at work. Thanks for sharing. It shows what we are capable of when we direct our attention to a central inspirer of our spiritual activity (remember, singing is a form of imaginative thinking activity) and truly desire to resonate with others in harmony.
Yet we can also notice how these same people will leave the concert and go back to their relatively cacaphonic sensory existence. Their 'inspiration' for conducting their spiritual activity will be patched up from the most disjointed sources, from friends, teachers, movie stars, musicians, athletes, political leaders, advertisements, and plain old instinctive pleasure-seeking habits.
What I was speaking of above was Inspiration that goes deeper and is more lasting, where the Divine directly conducts our attuned spiritual activity, even during normal sensory existence. It is a gradual and subtle process of transformative attunement, of course. In a certain sense, it requires us to withhold the forces that come to expression in our outer singing and repurpose them toward singing inwardly. Then we come to know the essence of the forces that we are always relying on as the support and medium of our spiritual activity, which by acting as that support and medium, are merged into the background and therefore ignored.
I'm glad you like it Ashvin,
I do believe Collier is offering a different view of what you call the "cacaphonic sensory existence".
I believe he is advocating and performing an acceptance of the cacaphonies and then building new harmonies with them. He often states that he doesn't believe there is anything that qualifies as a bad sound; only inadequate harmonies that can't embrace them.
I do agree with you, Steiner, et al that one should not stop at any step. Continued realization, maintenance and manifestation are an on-going work co-arising from what is already within and beyond us.
For those who might be interested in Collier's views, here are two excellent podcasts: