Non Human Intelligences
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:13 pm
Bernardo’s hypothesis on NHIs - that they are remnants of an ancient pre-human civilisation- is interesting. The recent disclosures by Americans who say they’ve seen these beings has now moved Bernardo on from his largely Jungian analysis discussed in his book “Meaning in Absurdity”.
I wonder how others see this?
Here’s my view on what he says (which may not interest you, but might perhaps provide a springboard for you to wade in with your own views):
1. The idea of NHIs being from previously evolved life on Earth is perhaps more likely than that they have come from hundreds, thousands or millions of light years away and are able to cope with Earth’s biosphere, even though astronauts say they’ve seen UFOs in space. However, as the Earth is now extensively and minutely mapped by satellite, I think they’d need some way of making themselves invisible to us, even if they mostly live underground. They’d likely still need to mine for materials, for instance. The fact that UFOs are often said to suddenly disappear suggests that invisibility cloaking may be a possibility.
2. If they are of Earth origin, the idea that they are cognitively alien to us strikes me as strange. After all, Bernardo suggests they would have evolved in a technologically similar way to us (e.g. at one time using fossil fuels and perhaps thereby creating their own climate change), so one would expect them to have an understanding of the way we think and act, since we are in many ways probably repeating their own development. Their maths and physics would need to largely be in accordance with ours if they live in our spacetime reality, even if it is more advanced and their biology is different. I would also expect that some of them would try to establish communication by more direct means than Bernardo suggests. For instance, why not amble up to a mother’s meeting, wave, walk away and leave a box full of their own exotic children’s toys to show goodwill? Surely a sentient being would have a concept of goodwill?
3. The idea that they are interdimensional or other-dimensional beings still seems possible: if there are indeed NHI corpses, under Analytic Idealism everything we see is an appearance. Corpses are the memory-appearance of dissociated life-forms, so one might expect that if we’d seen them, they’d leave a trace for us matching with our own sensory apparatus, our own way of recording memories. (Incidentally, I find it hard to believe that DNA analysis wouldn’t have already been attempted on such corpses.)
4. Could they be AI bioengineered beings from our own far future, travelling back in time out of curiosity or to influence the timeline? (Perhaps, if there are multiple timelines, they could influence our timeline without impacting on their own existence).
All my thoughts may be rubbish. I’d be interested to read yours.
I wonder how others see this?
Here’s my view on what he says (which may not interest you, but might perhaps provide a springboard for you to wade in with your own views):
1. The idea of NHIs being from previously evolved life on Earth is perhaps more likely than that they have come from hundreds, thousands or millions of light years away and are able to cope with Earth’s biosphere, even though astronauts say they’ve seen UFOs in space. However, as the Earth is now extensively and minutely mapped by satellite, I think they’d need some way of making themselves invisible to us, even if they mostly live underground. They’d likely still need to mine for materials, for instance. The fact that UFOs are often said to suddenly disappear suggests that invisibility cloaking may be a possibility.
2. If they are of Earth origin, the idea that they are cognitively alien to us strikes me as strange. After all, Bernardo suggests they would have evolved in a technologically similar way to us (e.g. at one time using fossil fuels and perhaps thereby creating their own climate change), so one would expect them to have an understanding of the way we think and act, since we are in many ways probably repeating their own development. Their maths and physics would need to largely be in accordance with ours if they live in our spacetime reality, even if it is more advanced and their biology is different. I would also expect that some of them would try to establish communication by more direct means than Bernardo suggests. For instance, why not amble up to a mother’s meeting, wave, walk away and leave a box full of their own exotic children’s toys to show goodwill? Surely a sentient being would have a concept of goodwill?
3. The idea that they are interdimensional or other-dimensional beings still seems possible: if there are indeed NHI corpses, under Analytic Idealism everything we see is an appearance. Corpses are the memory-appearance of dissociated life-forms, so one might expect that if we’d seen them, they’d leave a trace for us matching with our own sensory apparatus, our own way of recording memories. (Incidentally, I find it hard to believe that DNA analysis wouldn’t have already been attempted on such corpses.)
4. Could they be AI bioengineered beings from our own far future, travelling back in time out of curiosity or to influence the timeline? (Perhaps, if there are multiple timelines, they could influence our timeline without impacting on their own existence).
All my thoughts may be rubbish. I’d be interested to read yours.