Talking about Ss there is a thought that im thinking trough right know.
Every one in the forum here has a intuitive context, which allows us to understand what we are doing and why we are doing these things.
It is the means by which our existence feels lawful.
Let us imagine that we see a stranger, who smokes a cigarette, and we are none smokers.
Maybe we ask ourselves why this person smokes, knowing that it is really harmful.
We can't comprehend it and it is random or silly behavior in our eyes.
If we try out smoking a cigarette a couple years later and start smoking, one day we'll understand from a first perspective, why people smoke and can't stop.
We experience the craving and the pleasure which make us addicted.
Then we understand the first person experience of the stranger, which didn't fit in our context years before.
Now when I think in the described way about Ss, then it is natural, that Ss is either dismissed, or isn't understood correctly.
We have to reorient or context of the World, as a material place (arena) in which we live, inside a body, perceiving the outside, to a point, where we are free of assumptions.
This first step is very important, but difficult.
Then we have to get Ss, but not only as words, for which we then create imagination, in an external-sensory manner, but understand how these concepts are present and structure or experience of the world (including non sensory phenomenon like feeling thinking willing).
Am I correct till to this point ?
I know it will bring disagreement, but this isn't something, which every human being is able to do today.
You must have an interest in understanding the world and our role in it ( the meaning of life).
Then you must have the urge to know it really, and not only from the words of gurus, but trough own experience and understanding.
One must be educated enough to understand the written things (Pof, Cleric's essays or Ashvin's post).
One must be patient and read over and over again ( one must put in much effort) and must have the will to do it so.
There are much more conditions.
Isn't it really occult knowledge for a few, while others are trapped inside a thinking, that is full of wrong assumptions?
And as we talking about this topic, after so much posts, I didn't get how to "read-meditate" and understand how Ss concept shape our experience, let alone how we can verify this without experiencing clairvoyance.
Please don't take this as a criticism of the posts here, i just want to highlight the difficulty of understanding this, and the pain that comes with it, because I can't just say:,, Ok I don't get it, i should focus on something more pleasant instead of wasting my time."
I can understand why so many people on this forum, don't participate anymore.
Ps: steiner himself really describes the occult realities, in a way that we understand them as sensory and space like phenomena.
How can he don't know that people will get it wrong?
For example:
"This is clear to straightforward observation as an inner experience, but for the Initiate the astral body can become an outer reality. The Initiate sees this third member of man as an egg-shaped cloud which not only surrounds the body, but permeates it. If we “suggest away” the physical body and also the etheric body, what we shall see will be a delicate cloud of light, inwardly full of movement. Within this cloud or aura the Initiate sees every desire, every impulse, as colour and form in the astral body. For example, he sees intense passion flashing like rays of lightning out of the astral body.
In animals the basic colour of the astral body varies with the species: a lion's astral body has a different basic colour from that of a lamb. Even in human beings the colour is not always the same, and if you train yourself to be sensitive to delicate nuances, you will be able to recognise a man's temperament and general disposition by his aura. Nervous people have a dappled aura; the spots are not static but keep on lighting up and fading away. This is always so, and is why the aura cannot be painted."
Or
Anyone who wants to know the nature of the etheric body by direct vision must be able to maintain his ordinary consciousness intact and “suggest away” the physical body by the strength of his own will. The gap left will, however, not be empty; he will see before him the etheric body glowing with a reddish-blue light like a phantom, but with radiance a little darker than young peach blossom. We never see an etheric body if we “suggest away” a crystal; but in the case of a plant or animal we do, for it is the etheric body that is responsible for nutrition, growth and reproduction.
If I didn't came across this forum, I would understand this in a total different way.
