Shajan624 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:03 amI have no problem with almost all of what you write here. “We simply reach a point where we can grasp them as a coherent Imaginative panorama of our spiritual journey through this life”. Fine. My disagreement is only about the possibility of communicating (without leaving space for multiple interpretations) what is so grasped.Cleric K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:10 pmMartin, Thank you!Martin_ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:17 pm My interpretation of the central topic was: "Let's start with observing our thinking and see what we can say"
We came to the point where we saw that thinking (using small 't' here) isn't fully free. It's operating in something what could be described as a funnel, and the nature/state of this funnel, and in some sense also our thinking's position in this funnel, affects what we think.
That's how far we got, as I remember it.
Disclaimer: I'm purpously using simple words here, in order to not cause any wider associations. (Higher / Lower, etc) In no way whatsoever is my intent to imply any kind of dualism at this point.
The fact that you used these simple words speaks to me more than volumes of fancy but completely abstract musings.
Shajan, may this post serve also for a hint about your question.....Shajan624 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:58 pm You go on to say we could evolve towards a “fluid aggregation phase and live there fully consciously and knowingly”. Assuming that is possible, how would you then communicate unambiguously to those who are stuck at the current stage of evolution? Because you would have moved beyond the knowing-experiencing polarity and whatever you say would appear metaphorical to the less evolved.
Isn't that what Cleric is doing? You just gained another deep and meaningful angle on how to approach the spiritual journey. His posts are symbols pointing us to the living experience. If our understanding of where to look for these living experiences is even a little bit enhanced, as it certainly is for me every time I read the posts, and it seems maybe you as well, then the symbols have done their job and it is up to us to make the symbols living principles of metamorphosis in our Thinking organism. Even the posts which tread very familiar territory in familiar ways can work wonders in us if we lend it the power to do so.