Stranger wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:05 pm
AshvinP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:45 am
That wasn’t the point. There is no chance understanding the Luciferic and Ahrmicanic impulses, balanced by the Christ impulse, if we continually seek to externalize them as good or evil powers, or 'controlled opposition', to analyze from a safe distance.
Of course they are all within us, but it is still a controlled opposition of forces within us controlled by the higher order beings of the dualistic hierarchy.
God and the devil are fighting there and the battlefield is the heart of man.
Dostoevsky
You imagine beings in bubble-like spheres who are mechanically controlling our soul-atomic sphere and thus you wonder if there is any way to dissect these operations and figure out exactly what strings/levers they pull and buttons they push to reduce our holistic ideas into fragmented concepts and perceptions. We are giving you ways upon ways to start deconditioning from this intellectualistic projection of the higher worlds which will forever block any further understanding during life on Earth and will continue to breed the resentment towards the Divine guidance which is on display.
For ex., if we begin to inwardly discern the higher beings who weave the Karmic laws through their activity, then we start to better understand how outer sensory events and objects are attracted to our own stream of becoming and shape the riverbed of structured potential through which it flows. We see how Cosmic and Earthly intents for Divine realization are bent into frictional conceptual-perceptual relations with the environment and our fellow human beings. We learn how our interactions with other people and things, both positive and negative, have worked to provide the fertile soil from which our Divine skills and capacities can grow, in proportion to how
conscious we become of these living relations which we are always involved in. These aren't to be understood as abstract laws which apply to hypothetical people and which govern their behavior in some mechanical way that we can view from the side as in a movie - they are the forces which make sense of the nested Time potential structuring our first-person Earthly lives, in all its interactive dynamism. The desires, feelings, thoughts we have, the things we pay attention to, the places we live, the people we meet, the family we were born into, the culture to which we belong, the epoch in which we are placed, etc.
That
is the nature of the familiar sensory world - it is why the sensory world exists as we experience it. Obviously these relations implicate deeply moral considerations for each individual which are in keeping with what all ancient scriptures relate to us as well. It's impossible to read the scriptures in any living way and miss how they speak to the core of our striving for moral perfection. We aren't going to find beings somewhere inside or outside of us which are having ideas of "separate apple", "separate table", "earthquake and hurricane", etc. and these then precipitate into the our normal Earthly consciousness and are responsible for all our suffering and struggles in the world. No ancient culture envisioned such an abstract and externalized interaction with the higher worlds. The apostle John was not envisioning these evil beings who are inserting lies and delusions into our consciousness to keep us from recognizing our Oneness with the Father and Son. If we simply acquire a devoted
interest in the Earthly evolution, our fellow humans and their evolutionary history, their modes of consciousness, etc., then we won't keep
deluding ourselves by projecting our current consciousness throughout the wide expanses of eternity.
None of this deconditioning can be done if we don't humbly admit something within our own soul-lives which needs to be progressively deconditioned, and instead seek to externalize the blame onto dualistic heirarchies, hoping in vain that it will all go away after death and we will be freely expanding into the Cosmic multiverse. "
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before the Fall." The principle reality of our fallen nature is very simple, as Cleric has said. It isn't to be found in NDE accounts, regression studies, YT videos, or our present interpretations of ancient documents. It is to be found in the intimate details of our own soul-life.