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Güney27 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:22 pm I’m right now reading Charles Taylor’s sources of self and I can highly recommend it. He tries to explain the evolution of the self in human history. Nicholas smith from Substack introduced me into him and I’m really impressed. It seems to be a big point for our future evolution, to understand how our thinking is metamorphosing and conditioning the way we see the world. It’s beautiful to see that there isn’t only Steiner in the academic world who seems to recognize these things

Speaking of ways of living into the spiritual evolutionary process, I came across this fantastic YT series by JDE. It explores the metamorphic process through art history, with many examples and very detailed and insightful commentary. JDE is also familiar with esoteric science, and other spiritual evolutionary thinkers like Gebser, and we can also sense this clearly in his commentary. He has one of those intellectual memories which seems to keep all the facts and concepts he has encountered in focus simultaneously, and is able to relate ideas across disciplines to each other very clearly and efficiently. The artistic works, of course, help us live into the meaningful metamorphoses of humanity's cognitive perspective through more living and feeling-imbued ideas.


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AshvinP wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:27 pm
Güney27 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:22 pm I’m right now reading Charles Taylor’s sources of self and I can highly recommend it. He tries to explain the evolution of the self in human history. Nicholas smith from Substack introduced me into him and I’m really impressed. It seems to be a big point for our future evolution, to understand how our thinking is metamorphosing and conditioning the way we see the world. It’s beautiful to see that there isn’t only Steiner in the academic world who seems to recognize these things

Speaking of ways of living into the spiritual evolutionary process, I came across this fantastic YT series by JDE. It explores the metamorphic process through art history, with many examples and very detailed and insightful commentary. JDE is also familiar with esoteric science, and other spiritual evolutionary thinkers like Gebser, and we can also sense this clearly in his commentary. He has one of those intellectual memories which seems to keep all the facts and concepts he has encountered in focus simultaneously, and is able to relate ideas across disciplines to each other very clearly and efficiently. The artistic works, of course, help us live into the meaningful metamorphoses of humanity's cognitive perspective through more living and feeling-imbued ideas.


Hey Ashvin,

since you are into philosophy too I would really recommend you Charles Taylor’s book “retrieving realism”. It is a hard book because he writes for the academic audience, and it’s a dense one, but there is much value in there. He begins to describe the Cartesian approach which emerged and became common sense, and then deconstructs this type of thinking and shows the new path of thinking (which is heavily oriented towards Heidegger and ponty). It’s amazing because they really come to the really same conclusion Cleric and Steiner came to. Of course not to the esoteric knowledge but nevertheless it’s really strengthening the intuitive orientation and one becomes a clearer picture of our common sense view and the new path which stands in its beginning. I find it of great value to study philosophy more deeply. It strengthens my will and concentration skills and it feels like if my intelligible context grows trough it. It’s a big challenge because I have no academic affiliations, but I can understand the written.

The more I’m reading philosophy the more my appreciation for Steiner as a philosopher has grown. He wasn’t noticed in the academic world in his time, but trough husserl and Heidegger, the new epistemological thinking which is grounded in phenomenology was introduced into the academic world. I don’t found a work which tries to bring these thinkers together (Heidegger/Steiner or Gadamer/Steiner which would be more interesting) yet. It’s worth to notice that these thinkers also saw an evolution of consciousness and the way human beings understands themselves .
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Güney27 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:33 am Hey Ashvin,

since you are into philosophy too I would really recommend you Charles Taylor’s book “retrieving realism”. It is a hard book because he writes for the academic audience, and it’s a dense one, but there is much value in there. He begins to describe the Cartesian approach which emerged and became common sense, and then deconstructs this type of thinking and shows the new path of thinking (which is heavily oriented towards Heidegger and ponty). It’s amazing because they really come to the really same conclusion Cleric and Steiner came to. Of course not to the esoteric knowledge but nevertheless it’s really strengthening the intuitive orientation and one becomes a clearer picture of our common sense view and the new path which stands in its beginning. I find it of great value to study philosophy more deeply. It strengthens my will and concentration skills and it feels like if my intelligible context grows trough it. It’s a big challenge because I have no academic affiliations, but I can understand the written.

The more I’m reading philosophy the more my appreciation for Steiner as a philosopher has grown. He wasn’t noticed in the academic world in his time, but trough husserl and Heidegger, the new epistemological thinking which is grounded in phenomenology was introduced into the academic world. I don’t found a work which tries to bring these thinkers together (Heidegger/Steiner or Gadamer/Steiner which would be more interesting) yet. It’s worth to notice that these thinkers also saw an evolution of consciousness and the way human beings understands themselves .

Hi Guney,

Thanks for the recommendation, I will try to get around to it. I see there are also some YT interviews with him. There is something about Canada that seems to produce very insightful thinkers recently :)

It is great that your sensitivity to the deeper meaning of modern philosophical gestures is growing. That ties in with what has been discussed on the other thread - there is nothing within the philosophical language itself that deprives us of resonating with its deeper symbolic meaning, we only need to work on expanding our own interests and purifying various selfish soul tendencies. Rigorous philosophical thinking is actually a great way to do that, since it generally helps us set aside our personal preferences, sensitivities, desires, etc. to concentrate on the metamorphoses of thinking states. It's interesting how we can begin to become interested in domains of meaning that we previously felt were beyond our ability to comprehend, to get enthusiastic about, or were highly antipathetic for one reason or another.

Perhaps linking the intuitive insights of Heidegger and Steiner or Gadamer and Steiner can be your next project :) I am not really familiar with Gadamer. I tried to link Heidegger with spiritual science in a couple essays, at a very basic and abstract level.
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